24-04-2025 10:01 PM
Hello all,
I've got an odd issue which I'm hoping someone can offer a steer on.
I have the EE 1.6 Gb Full Fibre Busiest Home package with a Smart Hub Plus.
All seemed to be working fine until my original Smart Hub Plus failed in Jan 2025. This was attributed to a bad firmware update, and a new hub was sent out. I connected this up and again everything appeared to be ok, until colleagues at work started complaining that my video during MS Teams calls was regularly freezing. On my end, I didn't see any issues - I could see and hear everyone else fine so it came as a surprise. Setting up a test meeting that just included me, I recorded myself and when playing back immediately found that the video and audio both freeze and stutter. This is readily reproducible, although sometimes the performance is extremely bad with the video completely frozen. Strangely, this only affects the MS Teams desktop app, with connections via the web browser still being good quality.
So far, everything else seems ok - stable and fast connection (getting around 1.6 Gbps routinely).
Here's what I've tried so far:
This suggests to me it might be some network infrastructure issue, rather than a problem with the Smart Hub Plus or with the laptop / Teams. Could the route the traffic is following make a difference? If so, how would I go about pinpointing this? The Microsoft 365 connectivity tests don't flag up anything obvious.
After much testing to convince myself there was an issue with the connection I called EE and an engineer visited. He indicated there had been some problems with the Smart Hub Plus on fast connections, tried to run a series of tests but these didn't complete. Reason unclear. However, he was confident that the new Smart Hub Pro would resolve the issues although he wasn't allowed to issue one himself.
Engineer left, job appeared to be closed, then I got a message from OpenReach asking me to arrange a call so that equipment could be delivered. I did, got put through to EE, with the guide saying that I really should have had the Smart Hub Pro already and that he'd get one sent out, although the process for doing this was very difficult. That was almost a couple of weeks ago. Being concerned this wasn't being progressed I got back in touch - over multiple calls now, once I get past the agent telling me I've got a very fast connection and they can't see an issue or find open jobs, when they review previous notes there's a record somewhere to an order being placed, but no-one can find out what. It appears I'm now down as a new customer and something needs to be progressed by the "New IT" team, even though I've been with EE for over a year.
So, perhaps a Smart Hub Pro will be sent out, which will be good because it sounds like I'm entitled to one on my package.
However, I'm not convinced the hub itself is the issue, given that the Asus router performs similarly, except when a VPN is active.
Does anyone have any thoughts about what might be happening?
Thanks!
20-11-2025 10:20 AM
My bad 🙂
20-11-2025 10:46 AM
haha no worries. unfortunately like many, I'm old and battle-scarred (and weary) with many 1st/2nd/3rd line support of varying levels/experience over the years. 😁
20-11-2025 12:20 PM - edited 20-11-2025 12:26 PM
I spoke to EE again today and they didn't show any sign of understanding the issue. Their initial offer was to send me a Smart Hub Pro and (assuming it works) charge me £10 a month for the pleasure. I don't need WiFi7, so I declined the offer.
Aparently I'm trapped in the contract until Jan 2027 (I never imagined for a second EE wouldn't be capable of providing a functioning network).
Next steps is a site visit from an engineer, who I'll bet has no concept of DSCP or QoS queueing/policing. I'm going to predict that he'll tell me my network is performing perfectly, let's see....
21-11-2025 07:11 PM
So I’ve not received anything yet but after checking with them again via chat in the EE app I do now have an order confirmation email for a hub getting delivered on 25/11. Will update again when I’ve got it.
26-11-2025 07:01 PM
My Smart hub 2 was delivered yesterday, been on teams meetings all day today and not had any issues at all.
So for me at least, the modem/router swap appears to have solved the issue.
28-11-2025 07:30 AM
Are EE charging you extra for the new router?
28-11-2025 11:29 AM
@HomeNetworkGuy Would not expect so, it's an old BT wifi 5 hub from years back but still works and covers everything needed for the Fibre and Voice connection!
28-11-2025 11:59 AM
I didn’t get charged.
They do want me to return the other one though but have provided postage label to do so.
01-12-2025 04:00 PM
Hey yellowvandan
Can you confirm what you received?
I currently have a EE Smart Hub 3 (so EE tell me) -
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t3.com%2Freviews%2Fee-smart-hub-plus-wireless-...
Is this what you had and they just replaced it?
Or did they send a new Smart Hub Pro?:
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/nggallery_import/EE-Smart-Hub-Pro-router-insi...
EE are still sending me round and round in circles from the 1st line support to the upgrades team (to sell me the £10 a month extra for the Smart Hub Pro) and back again.
I just want to get out of the contract now and move to an alternative ISP, EE are just terrible.
01-12-2025 05:11 PM
@HomeNetworkGuy wrote:I currently have a EE Smart Hub 3 (so EE tell me)
More usually called & labelled as a Smart Hub Plus.