Unlimited sim in a 4GEE router - Still data and device limited?

[camy252]

Due an upgrade to my 4GEE home internet deal and wondering if the unlimited sims (designed for phones) are still data and device limited if you put them in a router?

Had my contract for a year now and I've started streaming 4k more, downloading more game updates and Warzone needs its on data deal in itself for those updates!  I'm starting to creep a bit closer to my 500gb limit. 

I was put off buying a sim only deal by EE advisors who told me at the time I'd be capped at 100gb because the sim would think I'm tethering when its put into a router and I would also only be able to connect 11 devices to it even though my router is capable of up to 64.  

Its tough paying £50 for 500GB when people are out there paying £35 for unlimited!  So I'm asking/wondering if things have changed and it might now be feasible to go for one of the unlimited cards when I'm due an upgrade.  

Unfortunately I can't test and see because it might take more than 14 days to reach 100GB at which point I would know if i'm capped or not.  Also, I now have way more than 11 devices on my network so I would definitely need this cap lifted before I'd consider it.  (unless thats EE's way of stopping people putting phone sims into routers, by capping the devices?)

[XRaySpeX]

Unlimited SIMs are no more or less limited in mobile routers than in mobile phones.  

There is a FUP of 600GB data per month & up to 11 devices regularly connected at the same time.

The 100GB limit you mentioned is not against tethering or other devices behind your router using the data from the SIM. It only applies to gifting data from that SIM to other mobile nos. on your a/c.

[camy252]

Thanks for confirming this for me.  Shame the FUP is now at 600gb not 1000gb.  Not much of an upgrade from my 500gb.  And shame about 11 devices being the limit as these days its sitting well over that for me (smart home devices, APs etc).  Hopefully this will change soon as most people now have all these smart devices around the home.  I'll stick with my 4GEE sims until this changes then. Cheers

[XRaySpeX]

Thanks! You're welcome 🙂 ! Glad I could be of assistance & it is now sorted.

[camy252]

Not quite fully sorted as i'm still super jealous of the people paying half what I pay and getting more data.  But I appreciate you confirming my queries.

[EssexBoyEE]

As far as I m aware the 11 Devices are considered as Internet Usage Devices rather than what is connected to your Network.

The 600gb FUP is just that it's a Policy not a Data Cap, I would imagine you would need to exceed this on a regular basis before EE decided to take action.

This FUP has been discussed on here many times but I can't recall anyone actually posting on here that they have just had the wrists slapped by EE for exceeding the FUP.

[XRaySpeX]

Here I meant your enquiry has been sorted. That's what this Community is here for. We don't & can't fix issues in EE systems.

@EssexBoyEE : Yes, the devices have be pulling/pushing data from the Net regularly to count in the 11.

[camy252]

Just wouldnt be worth the risk as its difficult to tell when certain devices are gonna pull data. Especially Alexas, Unifi APs, smart plugs and phones which will all sporadically use data.  No telling what would actually happen when you reach that 11 device limit (unifi ap stop working and then scupper all the downstream devices or Alexa's disconnecting etc).

To help with context, I have: 3x Echos, 2x smart plugs, 2x Unifi NanoHDs, 2x people using work laptops, PC, PS4, 2x smart TVs, Firestick, robotic vaccum cleaner, tablet, 2x phones, 1x wifi baby monitor.  So given that, theres no way I would risk the 11 device restriction that may or may not kick in when it thinks I've reached the limit.

Now, thats quite a lot of devices for a 2 person home but I do love my tech stuff, but even so, an average couple or family home wouldnt be far off that number and I suspect they still be over the 11 device limit.  So i'm surprised more people havent ran into issues.  I suspect its designed to stop people using these sims for home internet but it would be nice if EE just said that.

[EssexBoyEE]

Well it's nice to see your fully prepared for when the Internet goes Bang, must admit I've never thought about sharing a Fallout Shelter with a Robotic vaccum cleaner 🤔😁

I believer the FUP on the Unlimited Sims are to distract folk from using them in a Multi User Business environment as this is referred to in the FUP wording, reserve the right to move you to a Business Tarriff, anyway it's your call and good luck with it all. 👍

[XRaySpeX]

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@camy252 wrote:

I suspect its designed to stop people using these sims for home internet but it would be nice if EE just said that.

It wouldn't & they can't cuz that would break Net Neutrality rules. You are free to put any SIM in any device of your choosing.

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