22-06-2024 05:35 PM
Hello,
I’ve just moved from Sky Stream to EE, yet when I follow all instructions and set up my TV it finds no channels whatsoever in Internet Mode. I have tried all troubleshooting available several times, factory resets etc.
The box is 100% connected to the hub and it shows all necessary Apps etc and they work fine.
My TV guide offers nothing.
Can someone please help me as I’m seriously considering switching back,
Thanks
20-07-2024 12:48 PM
Hi Darren
I am having the same issue my parents moved house and was told all would be up and running yesterday so I set it all up but the tv channels arnt working shows there are no channels when you do a re scan exactly same problem can you help ?
Thank Clare
20-07-2024 12:52 PM
Can you please email me at tv.apps@ee.co.uk with account details @Clarebear14 - I'll take a look
23-07-2024 09:03 PM
Hi
It out of hours now, but just a heads up that I have the same problem.
A key detail might be that I have waited 2.5 months from signing up to have the services installed and semi working today being the first day. There were huge delays with the 3 different Open Reach teams that were needed to cut garden, then dig cable, then bring connection into the house. Maybe the long delay has locked my account so TV channels now won't tune?
I have zero channels found when I tune via Internet. I tried WiFi and Ethernet and both failed to find any channels. The EE TV home screen shows YouView as the service. I have Now Entertainment included in my package but haven't activated it yet.
Pleeeese help, it's been so long with so many chasing calls over the weeks, there hasn't been 1 step thats been easy. Being out of contract with Virgin has cost me £90 extra so far due to the delays.
The only consolation is that now I have OpenReach fibre to the property, so I can switch to any provider now, so things must get better fast or I am cancelling.
24-07-2024 09:00 AM
Sorry for the poor experience you've had so far @TickersPlaysPop
As per my email to you, your EE TV service needed to be paired with your broadband - this happened automatically overnight last night, after your broadband was successfully set up yesterday morning. Everything looks OK now, but let me know if you're still having issues.
24-07-2024 09:40 AM
Thank you for your swift reply.
For the record I am a fairly tech savvy guy in late 40's and have had a technical career. I'm quite a chilled guy, but this whole process has been 1 issue to the next and I'm understandably annoyed by this.
Yesterday was my install and go live day. The engineer got the router and Internet working. Openreach don't touch the EE TV boxes. Yesterday I also received 2 emails to saying my Internet and TV were active respectively.
Naturally, after reading those emails yesterday it followed that I should be able to get the TV channels tuned?. Why send me an email when that evidently was an untruth? ... at least say, "please be aware it may take 24 hours to be able to tune the channels."
I spent precious family time trying in vain to get it working.
This is the BIG difference with Virgin who do everything. No outsourcing, and no shirking responsibility or liability for costs incurred. Virgin send an engineer and get everything working, WiFi, TV Phone, they don't leave the customer to deal with these issues that have been created by the companies I am paying/ suffering. If there is an issue, it can only be Virgin, and I would get compensation with no argument. I fear for all that has happened, and I haven't told you the full story of a catalogue of errors admitted to by EE, I will be given the run around to cover the £90 (minimum) in extra out of contract costs I have had o pay Virgin while this has dragged on.
Thank you for showing yet again that there is yet another mistep/shortcoming in the sad painful process of "simply switching provider".
24-07-2024 02:11 PM - edited 24-07-2024 02:15 PM
I asked for help from a colleague to explain exactly what happened with your account. This is what we (he) found:
Normally, the broadband is associated with BT/EE when the order for broadband is accepted by Openreach. This sometimes fails, but there's a backup - it happens again when the Openreach engineer marks the broadband installation as complete. Until that association happens, you're on a generic broadband line with no association to any particular ISP.
In your case, it appears your TV Box was connected to the broadband before the engineer had marked the job as complete. This caused it to pick up the default YouView profile, which is why it couldn't find any channels (as they are only offered on BT/EE broadband).
Your TV Box picked up the correct EE profile as part of the scheduled software update - overnight last night. If you'd checked for software updates (or factory reset the box) after the engineer left, this would have fixed it straight away.
We already have a bug open regarding this association sometimes failing at the point of order, but the impact is normally minimal.
Note: the email you received to say your service was active was sent after the engineer marked your job as complete. If you'd connected your box at this point, it would have worked. I can understand why you'd be keen to connect it straight away though - I would have done the same.
p.s. thanks for giving me this opportunity to learn a lot more about how this early part of TV provisioning works, and sorry again for the long delay you had in getting this all sorted from your original order in May.
24-07-2024 09:41 PM
I really do appreciate your time and effort to look into this.
I also want to make sure others that follow me don't have the same experience.
Some key and critical parts of your explanation are not correct. I will try to make it clear.
The emails to say my broadband and then TV were ready to use arrived at 1:19pm and 2:19pm respectively on the 23rd July, the day the engineer installed the wiring on the external of the house and the hub. You will see from the email I fwded you this is correct.
On that day I was working until 5pm and had my evening meal. I started to connect the TV box for the first time around 7pm that evening. It downloaded an update, and the. As part of my many attempts to tune the channels I tried at least once and maybe twice to reset the TV box.
So you are incorrect, I did not start connecting the TV box before the email arrived, and I also installed an update and tried resetting the box.
But, what happened on my first attempt was that I plugged in an Ethernet cable that had my virgin broadband. But I did subsequently re set the box and try the set up process using the EE broadband. I tried all the permutations but nothing worked that evening
It worked first time in the morning the next day.
Please note, that you will have a bias and tend to jump to explanations that suit EE based on assumptions, before you are sure of all the facts. Please don't rush to blame Open Reach, it will just enflame your customers. We all probably need to accept that the Open Reach and the various retail providers is simply a flawed system, where without full oversight and control, no 1 part of the system can troubleshoot in all instances.
The unnerving very similar example is the eConsult service in GP practices. The system is meant to call patients, but patients phones sometimes don't ring and the GP call log shows a missed call. Then there is the Post office Horizon scandal.
Please listen to your customers and give them benefit of the doubt, trust your computer system less.
25-07-2024 08:10 AM
Thanks for the additional info - it helps to explain some of what happened.
Just to clarify a little further, and hopefully help others in future:
Openreach and EE are part of the same company - it's not about blame, or outsourcing. Ofcom regulations means we cannot send an engineer capable of installing both broadband and TV. We do offer an engineer visit for customers who need assistance setting things up, but the self-install process usually works well.
Our logs show that your EE hub was connected for the first time at 12:16pm, and your line wasn't marked as EE at the time (the EE hub tells us that). We see the line change at 1:16pm, when the job is marked as complete. The EE Hub confirms this at 1:31pm when it enables the EE services on it. There's no known explanation/precedence for a TV box connected to that line after that time to not pick up the EE branding following either a factory reset, or check for software updates.
Connecting to the Virgin broadband would have the same effect, of course - sorry for assuming you'd connected your TV box early (we hadn't considered a 2nd line). A factory reset after then connecting to the correct line should have fixed it though. We cannot see any logs from your TV box until it's recognised as on our broadband (for privacy reasons), so there's no way for us to check why it didn't pick up the EE branding until the following morning.
The advice is clear for customers in future - a factory reset (or check for updates) of the TV Box after the Openreach engineer has marked the job as complete (i.e. when they've received the email saying it's ready) should enable the EE branding, causing the channels to appear. If any customer finds this to not be the case they should get in touch straight away (preferably by emailing tv.apps@ee.co.uk), as we'd like to understand what other possible faults may exist.
Note that the channels should be visible, but may not work straight away - that's a separate known issue (which I alluded to in my first comment).
One other differentiator in your case is normally the TV activation date is set for a date after the broadband is installed (e.g. midnight that night), so customers wouldn't expect it to work straight away - in your case, the dates were the wrong way around (I assume as a result of delays on your broadband install)?
25-07-2024 08:53 PM
Hi
Thx for spending more time explaining, and correcting me.
The bit about the TV activation date and the broadband activation date being set abnormally doesn't read well or make sense to me. I wasn't aware dates had been set or where I would be able to look for them. I certainly did a TV box reset while connected to the EE broadband which automatically displayed a check for updates. So I'm quite sure there was something wrong at your end. So something connected to the long delay as you say.
The delay of 2.7 months from signing up to getting to the point of a working hub in my house was due to long wait times and mistakes between EE and OpenReach in organising the 4 phases of works. Initial survey of ground and property, then tree cutting, then ground digging garden to put conduit and fibre from street to my house, then the final electronic engineer to install external cable on house and drill a hole to feed the cable into the house and set the hub up. That final step almost didn't succeed because the ground diggers hadn't left enough slack to reach my house, so the engineer had to pull the fibre cable a few extra inches from a house around 40 meters away!
Who sets the activation dates for the TV and broadband? Can that be checked by customers or only yourselves? Surely I'm not the only customer to have long delays at the moment? What can you do to prevent others from suffering the same issue as me?
26-07-2024 12:35 PM
The activation date is usually confirmed as part of the order process, and should be in the order confirmation email.
We've used a few other sources to work out what was going on with your box.
1. Your EE Smart Hub reports that your TV Box was first connected to it at 6:42am the following morning. It had never seen the box before that time.
2. The Netflix app on the box last tried to activate itself on your line at 4:39am - from the same Virgin broadband IP address that it updated the software from, at 7:25pm the night before.
All signs point to there not being an issue here.