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Refused a new EE Smart Hub Plus when moved from BT

jfmarkham
Investigator
Investigator

A few weeks ago my BT contract had expired so negotiated a new extension with increased speed. At the time I was told I would be moved to EE and it was agreed that I would be supplied with a new EE Smart Plus Hub and I would be sent a bag to return the BT Router.

The bag arrived but no new hub. When I rang yesterday I was told EE would not send me a new hub as my old BT was "good enough", they could only replace it with another BT router! It was suggested that there had been a miss communication or I misunderstood. This was not the case I was quite explicit and was told I would get the EE Smart Hub Plus.

The discussion went round around, including being told there was no email to which I could write and complain. If I wanted to raise a complaint he would raise it for me and resolve but the resolution was I would not get another hub (judge & jury!!).

When I make an agreement I expect EE to stick to it. There was no misunderstanding!

Come on EE stick to your part of the agreement I made when agreeing to stay with BT/EE when I could have gone elsewhere.

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AlanPGeorge
Visitor

I had the same issue with the verbal contract not being honoured only last week.  Complained and got it escalated to the Excutive Customer Relations team and resolved eventually.  I was told the Smarthub Plus could only be sent to customers on the Gigabit 900Mb plan.  I was given these contact details, but haven't used: 03306783069 and home-complaints@ee.co.uk. Good luck.

medaveh
Explorer

Yep, similar in my case too. My BT contract was expiring so gave them a call. Negotiated a deal but was not told at any stage that I was leaving BT and joining EE! The engineers arrived and fitted the FTTP and asked where the new hub was, as I didn't have one they used the existing BT one. I too have received a bag for returning the old kit and an email telling me to do so or else I will be charged. That was a week ago, still no new Hub arrived and I'm growing a beard waiting to talk to someone from EE. Will try again today ....

 

Interested if you get a reply. I have written a complaint via the website that they are supposed to respond to with 7 days. We shall see!!

.... Well finally made contact with a human at EE! Turns out no hub was ordered when I changed from BT to EE as it's the same smart hub 2, just rebranded. The return envelope and email were for the return of a hub from last August, now on it's way back. So from the initial call saying a new hub would be sent out, to keep the existing one!

XRaySpeX
EE Community Star
EE Community Star

@medaveh : No, it isn't! The BT SH2 is only WiFi-5 whereas the EE SH+ is WiFi-6.

The BT SH2 can only handle Fibre speeds up to 1 Gig; the EE SH+ up to 2.5 Gig.

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I had the same conversation but they are not the same. The EE Smart Hub Plus is WiFi 6 compatible but the old BT is not. Clearly the EE hub is a more modern piece of equipment!

JimM11
Brilliant Contributor
Brilliant Contributor

@jfmarkham You seem to be in a stuck/stalemate position at present, so not sure if this is an EE or BT issue, although they are to be the same? The link will get you to terms and conditions, it is from EE website but there is a reference to BT upgrade and dates, so not sure if there is a BT version also. Written contract will always out way anything verbal so may be worth the read. And it may be worth you looking on the BT forum regarding user's opinions of the EE hub also. HTH

https://ee.co.uk/help/terms-and-conditions/broadband/home-network

Danielmcg2020
Valued Contributor
Valued Contributor

They don't want to send you the smart hub because it is defective and will cause issues your BT hub will work just fine. 

Everyone who receives a defective smart hub when transferring from BT has resorted to using their old BT hubs as the EE one is not reliable. Whoever decided to not give you a EE smart hub was doing you a favour. 

 

 

MJ777
Visitor

Same issue. Been with BT for 3 years. BT hub 2 started to lose connection more frequently. Occasionally had to reset hub. Now reset every few days. I live in a large house with thick walls. I currently have 4 old 2.5ghz extenders to cover the whole house. Old extenders with slow speed. 

Decided to upgrade. Researched and decided on ee smart hub with WiFi 6 extenders. Got a Black Friday Deal. However ee would only send me 3 extenders maximum. As I required 4, I asked for just the hub, no extenders package and I instead spent £300 on  4 compatible WiFi 6 MESH extenders.

Got the confirmation email. Including EE smart hub WiFi 6.

A week later. 28 November, Chased up customer services to enquire where my new hub was. 
I was told I don’t need one as my BT hub would work.

I strongly disagreed. I did need a new router because

1. my old BT one was dropping out with increased frequency.

2. My new contract included a new ee powerful and modern WiFi 6 hub.

ee responded telling me they were the same router in different casing.

I responded telling them, Not true. BT is old 2019 WiFi 5 tech. ee hub is new WiFi 6 tech. Not the same at all. Given I had purchased an expensive wifi 6 Mesh system. I wanted a WiFi 6 hub and not an outdated WiFi 5 hub. I specifically took out that contract for that specific reason.

I was put on hold whilst she spoke to a manager. Yeh that old blag. Then she came back and confirmed I would receive one in 5 days.

Today 12 days later, you won’t be shocked to learn No new ee hub. So when I called them, spent 31 minutes on the phone explaining all this again, I was told, there was no record of the conversation on the 28 November and no request for a new router. Fortunately I do have a record as I record all calls because from experience I don’t trust customer services. I find this usually motivates dishonest or incompetent companies in light of Ombudsman or small claims court applications to resolve or rectify their issues.  I was further told I will not get an ee hub. If my Old BT hub need replacing it will be like for like. This is breach of contract. That simple. When I challenged this. The repeated response was she was sorry but she did not have any other available option. EE think saying they have no option is a legitimate grounds for a blatant refusal. I asked to speak to complaints. I was told she would record a complaint. She then tested my line and stated there was a problem. I asked what problem, she stated copper wire issue. My router worked fine for years, now it is dropping out. I don’t believe there is any other issue.  She arranged for an engineer to come out next week. To do what, I asked. She said an expert would test my router. This is a diversion I think. I don't expect the engineer to make any difference. We will see. Then she informed me my complaint was resolved and I got an email confirming this. To be clear, the complaint is not resolved until I get the ee router, and explanation why after 3 phone calls with conflicting responses ee refuse to honour the contract.

So I have replied and asked for a letter of deadlock so I can send the evidence, correspondence and audio recordings to Ofcom.

 

Appalling customer services. Clearly others having the exact same issue. Of course if anyone from ee reading this feels anything I have publicly stated is false and defamatory. Please take legal action against me for Libel. You won’t of course because what I have said is true and accurate.  I will persist with Ofcom. In the end it is clear cut and will cost ee. Do not allow companies to manipulate, lie and treat paying customers which such contempt, else they will continue use to behave in this unethical way.