24-04-2025 10:01 PM
Hello all,
I've got an odd issue which I'm hoping someone can offer a steer on.
I have the EE 1.6 Gb Full Fibre Busiest Home package with a Smart Hub Plus.
All seemed to be working fine until my original Smart Hub Plus failed in Jan 2025. This was attributed to a bad firmware update, and a new hub was sent out. I connected this up and again everything appeared to be ok, until colleagues at work started complaining that my video during MS Teams calls was regularly freezing. On my end, I didn't see any issues - I could see and hear everyone else fine so it came as a surprise. Setting up a test meeting that just included me, I recorded myself and when playing back immediately found that the video and audio both freeze and stutter. This is readily reproducible, although sometimes the performance is extremely bad with the video completely frozen. Strangely, this only affects the MS Teams desktop app, with connections via the web browser still being good quality.
So far, everything else seems ok - stable and fast connection (getting around 1.6 Gbps routinely).
Here's what I've tried so far:
This suggests to me it might be some network infrastructure issue, rather than a problem with the Smart Hub Plus or with the laptop / Teams. Could the route the traffic is following make a difference? If so, how would I go about pinpointing this? The Microsoft 365 connectivity tests don't flag up anything obvious.
After much testing to convince myself there was an issue with the connection I called EE and an engineer visited. He indicated there had been some problems with the Smart Hub Plus on fast connections, tried to run a series of tests but these didn't complete. Reason unclear. However, he was confident that the new Smart Hub Pro would resolve the issues although he wasn't allowed to issue one himself.
Engineer left, job appeared to be closed, then I got a message from OpenReach asking me to arrange a call so that equipment could be delivered. I did, got put through to EE, with the guide saying that I really should have had the Smart Hub Pro already and that he'd get one sent out, although the process for doing this was very difficult. That was almost a couple of weeks ago. Being concerned this wasn't being progressed I got back in touch - over multiple calls now, once I get past the agent telling me I've got a very fast connection and they can't see an issue or find open jobs, when they review previous notes there's a record somewhere to an order being placed, but no-one can find out what. It appears I'm now down as a new customer and something needs to be progressed by the "New IT" team, even though I've been with EE for over a year.
So, perhaps a Smart Hub Pro will be sent out, which will be good because it sounds like I'm entitled to one on my package.
However, I'm not convinced the hub itself is the issue, given that the Asus router performs similarly, except when a VPN is active.
Does anyone have any thoughts about what might be happening?
Thanks!
04-12-2025 11:57 AM
If you have Intel Connectivity Performance suite installed, try turning off Prioritisation.
I have just got a new laptop at work, and this seems to have solved it for me. On a call, I could toggle live and the other person could literally see when I was turning it on and off as it instantly moved between robotic and frozen, and flawless.
04-12-2025 11:58 AM - edited 04-12-2025 11:58 AM
My fix was going back to the older BT Smart Hub 2 which seems to ignore any packet marking from Teams/Webex/Zoom.>>
Or it remarks to 0 and the problem is upstream, EE don't appear to have any staff capable of actually finding where the problem is, they don't care. They aren't a serious/competent ISP.
04-12-2025 12:04 PM
Agreed HNG, the router probably just strips the markings and dumps it in with the rest of the traffic which in this case is a benefit! 🤣
Also agreed that EE don't seem to have a clue or just don't care, either way they are incompetent.
04-12-2025 12:16 PM
EE have fixed my connection. I got a call from an EE engineer yesterday afternoon who asked me to test the fix. I switched off my VPN (using a VPN had been an effective work around) and made a call and was able to verify that the fix they have pt in works! I assume they will be rolling this out within days.
04-12-2025 12:34 PM
I'd be really interested in knowing what the fix is - I don't suppose they mentioned if it's something on the network, or a firmware fix pushed to the router? Is it a fix for everyone?
Appreciate they might not have shared this info with you.
04-12-2025 12:41 PM
I've still got the new router sitting in my cupboard which I could put back but could do with knowing if the fix is network related or router related. It would be amazing if they've finally done a proper fix.
04-12-2025 12:45 PM
BT/EE engineers were testing a fix with my customers user, and it was very specific to them, so sounds like the same fix. The implication was that it was a router fix but they wouldnt give specifics.
04-12-2025 01:05 PM
I just tested, my connection is working today..... No packet loss, high quality video and audio. Maybe they fixed something in the network.
04-12-2025 01:28 PM
mmmm, I will give my old router a test tomorrow then & feedback.
04-12-2025 01:38 PM - edited 04-12-2025 01:38 PM
My smart hub's uptime is 30 days, so it's not new firmware