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Internet routing issues

jackdowsonuk
Investigator
Investigator

Hey!

So I have decided to post here as I have received very poor support from EE's technical support team for an issue I've been having.

For just over a week now, I have had potential routing issues with my full fibre gigabit service. I have noticed that certain websites seem to load incredibly slowly (almost like dial-up) whereas some load fast, using an ethernet connection (not wi-fi). Speed tests seem consistently fast all the time, however when trying to download from these affected websites they can be as slow as 400KB/s.

I spoke to EE's technical support. Unfortunately, I use my own hardware (I use my own EdgeMax Router and Ubiquiti U6-LR for wi-fi),  because of recent firmware problems with EE's router limiting upload speeds to half what they should be.

I have done tests with my PC (and also laptop to isolate device issues), with the device temporarily connected directly to the ONT with LAN cable (I have tried different cables), nothing else connected, and the issues still persist. I can barely even use Discord without taking 3 or 4 minutes to load and log in. If I connect to a VPN location that's somewhere away from here (such as the US), the speeds are blazingly fast, even to the affected websites, so this, to me, clearly seems like some kind of routing issue. This is compounded by the fact that I have tested with different DNS IPs as well (at the router level or device level, doesn't matter which), again with the same problems.

I tested by connecting my laptop to the wi-fi in the communal area of my building (different floor) which uses a different service provider (Hyperoptic) and again, it was incredibly fast with no reliability issues whatsoever. 

When I spoke to technical support and explained the 2.5-5% packet loss on the affected websites, I had to explain to the agent what packet loss even was, as she didn't have a clue (in her defence she said that packet loss isn't something they're trained on). She started to guide me down the route of "well do you have wi-fi signal problems and how many devices do you have connected to the wi-fi", even though I explained twice that it was using an ethernet connection. She also explained to me that because the connection between EE and my property doesn't show any faults, and is fast, there is nothing they can do. I asked if this could be escalated to Openreach and she outright refused.

I would like to see if there's any way I can get this escalated to somewhere more technical who can deal with my issue, as this is causing a detrimental affect to my service. The affected websites also have latency issues too, peaking to as high as 400ms on occasion. There is clearly a problem and I have no idea how to resolve it.

Edit: I just noticed @andyxl987 's issue and maybe it could be linked?
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XRaySpeX
EE Community Star
EE Community Star

To try to get round this issue switch the DNS in the router away from EE's ones to Manual with 1 of these public DNS pairs:

OpenDNS   :	208.67.222.222 & 208.67.220.220
Google DNS:	8.8.8.8 & 8.8.4.4 
Cloudflare DNS 1.1.1.1 & 1.0.0.1  
If you think I helped please feel free to hit the "Thumbs Up" button below.

To phone EE CS: Dial Freephone +44 800 079 8586 - Option 1 for Mobile Phone & Mobile Broadband or Option 2 for Home Broadband & Home Phone

ISPs: 1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up > 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB > 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB > 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU > 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU > 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC > 2014: EE 20 Meg WBC > 2020: EE 40 Meg FTTC > 2022:EE 80 Meg FTTC SoGEA > 2025 EE 150 Meg FTTP
andyxl987
Contributor
Contributor

This sounds identical to the issue I'm experiencing, excruciatingly slow speeds to discord, packet loss and using a VPN as a work around too!

I tried disabling http/3 support in case the issue was something to do with how it functions, no change. Same for disabling http/2 as well, so that connections were forced to use http/1.1.

There appears to be some kind of network issue between EE and CloudFlare, maybe other major backbones too.

CloudFlare have a pretty good speedtest tool (see my post) but it makes the problem look less severe than it is during real world usage. Their speed tool doesn't make dozens of small requests in a short period like loading a page would, or especially discord's emoji panel. After a certain amount of requests in a small time interval, each subsequent request is exponentially slower to be resolved.

Hi,

I already tried this, with DNS servers from 6 different services, which made no difference at all.

I think Andy's issue and mine are linked. Something doesn't seem right.

Jack

Agreed!

If you think I helped please feel free to hit the "Thumbs Up" button below.

To phone EE CS: Dial Freephone +44 800 079 8586 - Option 1 for Mobile Phone & Mobile Broadband or Option 2 for Home Broadband & Home Phone

ISPs: 1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up > 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB > 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB > 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU > 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU > 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC > 2014: EE 20 Meg WBC > 2020: EE 40 Meg FTTC > 2022:EE 80 Meg FTTC SoGEA > 2025 EE 150 Meg FTTP
Heaving0551
Investigator
Investigator

Hello,

I am also having this same issue, seems to be some bad routing between EE and Cloudflare. I've tried using Cloudflare's DNS servers and also Googles makes zero difference.

traceyb8601
Visitor

Suffering the exact same problems. my normal router is a PFSense box and started having problems just over a week ago. like some of you I have tried all the main DNS servers Google,Cloudflare , Quad 9 etc and it makes no difference. there is deffo some sort of routing problem on the network.

EA App = Downloads fast 

Steam = Downloads fast 

Epic Launcher = Downloads verrrrry slow 

Xbox PC App = Downloads Verrrry slow 

 

When I use my VPN boom all apps back to working fast.

Leanne_T
EE Community Support Team

Hi @traceyb8601 

Thanks for coming here. 

Please report this to our Broadband tech team they can run full diagnostics and get this looked into. 

Leanne.