Managing recordings

[BladeRunner1973]

Coming from using Virgin media to EE I've noticed that there's no real options on EE TV to manage recordings eg. Start five minutes before and end 20 minutes after the programme has finished. 

Are they any plans to expand the recording options as being an F1 fan and programmes tend to overrun this would be a great option to have?

[DarrenDev]

The TV Box Pro uses real-time data provided by the channels to make sure that recordings continue as long as the programme keeps going.  There are no options to allow manual extending of recordings, and no plans to add them.

[BladeRunner1973]

Thanks for the response. That sounds great, however it doesn't seem to work
as I've had numerous recording cut short because they have run late.

Does this work alongside Now TV? This is where the recordings have failed
to run long enough.

[DarrenDev]

Sorry yes, you're right @BladeRunner1973 - Now TV don't provide accurate recording data for their channels.  Unfortunately your only option would be to schedule the following programme, or wait for the catch up video to become available.

[Midnight_Voice]

@BladeRunner1973 @DarrenDev 

What ‘Accurate Recording’ means is that the channels broadcast a trigger, called Present/Following, to signal the end of one broadcast and the start of the next.

(Freeview sends every P/F indicator out on every channel, not just the channel that raised it, which is how YouView boxes know to switch on recording for a channel they are not currently tuned to. Neat.)

So, ‘no padding needed?’ What could possibly go wrong? Well, the fly in the ointment is that very few channels adjust the times they send out their P/F indicators when programmes overrun or underrun; they just send them at the times indicated in the EPG for the programme changeovers.

And not only are they not compelled by the Freeview rules to get these P/F indicators right, they are not even compelled to send them at all! Though fortunately most do send them, at least, albeit triggered from the EPG and not from what’s actually happening.

And yet YouView based, and still bases, its recording start/stop times on these indicators, despite clear evidence, at the time of YouView’s launch and every year since, that most broadcasters simply don’t operate them in a way that remotely deserves the name ‘Accurate Recording’.

I an unable to rightly comprehend YouView’s thinking here 😢

[Alex453]

That isn't happening for my TV box pro. Is there a setting I need to change?

[Midnight_Voice]

@Alex453 

What isn’t happening?

If you mean you are getting programmes cut short, then also schedule to record the following programme.

You will find the missing bit of your programme at the start of that.

[brimar1]

That's all very well. But, how does this work, when you do not know which programmes are going to overrun?

Having just changed from you view to EE tv ( where this did not happen ) I am not amused.

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@brimar1 wrote:

Having just changed from you view to EE tv ( where this did not happen ) I am not amused.

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This is just the start, EE TV will find increasingly annoying ways to get on your nerves. 

[Midnight_Voice]

@brimar1 

It’s amazing what people see that can’t possibly be - except when it is.

There is no difference between the operation of a YouView box stand-alone and one on EETV; both suffer from the crippling limitation when programmes overrun that YouView’s only defence against this is for the broadcasters to operate Accurate Recording correctly, which they mostly don’t.

If you are running a YouView box in Aerial Mode, absolutely no difference.

The only possible change I can see is if you are running in IP Mode, where EETV, or the stream providers, may be handling Accurate Recording slightly differently. But I’ve seen no evidence that that is the case.