EE tv without the broadband package

[Harper86]

Hi,

Is it possible to subscribe to EE tv without the broadband packages? We don't have a landline and will never have a decent one due to our rural location but use EE wireless internet which already streams netflix, amazon etc without any issues.

I'm looking to ditch sky tv and this seems to be a decent option.

[garybs29]

It was  a response to the  "consciously chose not to licence" as basically you're moaning they're not paying for it so would you if it was availablke.

FWIW your last line, you can comfortably get an EE bb & tv package for less than £80 so I now don't see what the issue is tbh

[AP850]

I’m not sure if you missed the part about broadband speed. If you did, then the reason is that I'm used to 1.1GBps broadband. I'm happy to drop to 900KBps, but not 67Kbps.

Pay more for the licence? Yes, I think that is reasonable. I'm payingn for something I would use.

Take out a contract for broadband I don't want? I don't honestly believe you don't see an issue with that.

Anyway, this was about feedback. I didn't expect an argument, so I'm not going to respond to any more of this.

[Matt_124]

Gbps to Kbps is quite the drop...

I am assuming you mean Mbps, and are currently limited to Part Fibre/Fibre to the Cabinet speeds (Max Sync of 80 Mbps on Fibre 67) as opposed to Full Fibre/FTTP (from 150 Mbps up to 900 Mbps if you want EETV, or up 1.6Gbps without the option to take EETV currently).

If so fair enough, just worth keeping an eye on the Openreach Fibre Checker or the BTWholesale Address Checker for your address to see if and when Full Fibre is rolled out in your area.

[AP850]

Yes, quite a drop! OK, we're not talking about dial-up, I meant Mbps! But seems like a misunderstanding 🙂

I hadn't checked the wholesale address, only the fibre checker, so I had a look. The answer was: FTTP is not available. The exchange is not in a current fibre priority programme.

I guess I shouldn't hold my breath, sadly.

[Mustrum]

@AP850   you can check on the Openreach site if they have plans and/or timescales and register your interest and they will let you know any updates. However allow some time after OR's plans before it is available to order from ISP's. https://www.openreach.com/ 

[AP850]

It's looking like it's not for a couple of years at least. I suppose they have their reasons. There are two other options here (or will be imminently), and perhaps that reduces the priority. Who knows? But anyway, for the moment, I don't think EE is an option, either the broadband or the TV.

And that's a real shame because I think your TV is by far the closest to what i want. I think it's the best on the market, but sadly, it's not something I can consider. (Of course Virgin also forces you to buy broadband to get TV, so this isn't unique to EE.)

[2Sense]

There is fundamentally no difference between Apple TVs provided by EE and ones bought elsewhere. They have the same hardware and software, to the point my Apple TV will happily let me select EETV as my TV provider. The "licensed Apple TVs" more than likely comes from allowlisted hardware IDs or something along those lines.

The limitation is that the EE app checks which broadband provider it's running through. There is absolutely no technical limitation as EETV.

"No easy way around it"? Don't make me laugh. Want it running on other networks? Disable the check in the app. I literally build this stuff for a living, it's purely a legal issue by the sounds of it, not technical.

You said it yourself: "The broadcasters and content providers demand that only specially licensed Apple TV boxes can be used for this."

If EE are pro consumer, they wouldn't have settled for such a bad deal. "why would they cut off their nose just to spite their face?" Because profit margins.

[DarrenDev]

100% contractual reason for them being restricted to EE provided hardware.

As for running on other networks - it uses the broadband line to authenticate the account.  Yes, it could use a different authentication mechanism, but again, that is part of the contractual requirements.

Your comment about profit margins makes no sense. You're saying we're intentionally reducing our customer base, so that we make more money?