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Poynting XPOL-1-5G Antenna

johnkay7053
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@EssexBoyEE 

I have 2 X-polarised Omni Directional LTE MIMO antennas 698-3800 Mhz,3dBi installed and they are connect to a Huawei 5G Home router with 4 external aerial ports. My question is I have seen somewhere that the Ariel connections should be crossed over to allow both Ariels to work. Is this the case?

So from top to bottom

A1- First Ariel Primary

A2- Second Ariel Primary

A3- Second Ariel Secondary

A4-A1- First Ariel Secondary

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My second question is both Ariel's have 2x2 Mimo, does it matter about there positioning externally on the roof? (I have one at one end of the roof and the other at the other end) 

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EssexBoyEE
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I cannot see the Pic as it needs Admin / mod approval first.

The Huawei 5G CPE Routers, do not have 4 External Antenna Ports, has this been Modified or are you using Cable Splitters?

The Standard Huawei 5G CPE that do have External Ports (From the Factory) only have 2 External Antenna Ports and these Ports do not cover the Bandwidth of 698-3800 Mhz, they only cover frequencies around 3.5Ghz, so typically 3300 to 3800 Mhz or up to 4200 Mhz for China Versions, so in the EU/UK this will only really cover 5G NR Band n78.

For the above reason the Factory Standard Antenna Ports will not cover EE 5G NR Bands n1, n3, n7 and n28, neither will the Ports cover any 4G Bands, so these Bands will need to be pulled in using the Routers Internal Antennas (so a mix of both Internal and External Antennas). 

On a Standard 2 Port Antenna Huawei 5G CPE, the External Antenna configuration is 2x2 Mimo on 5G n78, or 4x4 Mimo at that frequency if the Internal Antennas can also receive a n78 Signal and the correct Antenna Settings are selected or set to Auto. 

On 2x2 Mimo (and 4x4) the External Antennas should be Polarised at 90 Degrees to each other, ideally with 45 Degree offset from normal Vertical and Horizonal, so each Single Antenna will be +45 Degrees and -45 Degrees (ie 90 Degrees between them) some Antennas do this inside the Aerial Enclosure or Housing (sometimes called X polarised) whilst some do not and rely on manual adjustment or tilting.

Your table of A1 to A4, doesn't really follow the normal, and do not appear to be in the correct order, how are these Antenna Ports connected to the Router?

Sorry my bag...Im using an EE 5G router with 4 vertical ports on the back (under the rubber cover)

So it's not a Huawei, it's a Zyxel NR5103 ?

Yes...Zyxel.. (Bloomin cut and paste for you!)

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Ok, so where does this information below come from?

So from top to bottom

A1- First Ariel Primary

A2- Second Ariel Primary

A3- Second Ariel Secondary

A4-A1- First Ariel Secondary

and just to confirm you have 2 lots of Antennas, both the same, Poynting XPOL-1-5G Antenna x2, each one has two cable feeders (so you 4 feeder cable at your disposal, correct.

what labels or identification are on the end on the Feeders, should be something like , 1 and 2, or + and-, or +45 and -45, or Prim and Sec etc.

 

yes

just to confirm I have Two Poynting XPOL-1-5G Antenna's, one on one end of the house and the other on the other end of the house. (there about 6mts between them at the same height). Both antennas are line of sight from a 5G tower about 1/2 a mile away. 

The antenna's both feed into the router via the 4 connections at the back. there are two cables out of each antenna which are not marked. 

If the cables for each antenna  are polarity sensitive, I will have to get up to each antenna and test out which cable is out of which port out of the antenna.

The information I am interpreting (possibly Incorrectly) is from the user manual picture would to me would indicate the crossover?

With the Router/Modem connected it is showing a good 4G connection and tests at 200Mbs down and 100Mbs Up. which is good but I'm sure it could be better? 

I have taken the router on my travels and when it connect to the 5G network the indication lights on the top turn from green (4G) to Blue (5G). Now back at home its not even receiving a 5G connection indicated by the lights, but a good 4G connection at the speeds shown above. It might be the local 5G tower is not turned on but I suspect it user error (Me....)

EssexBoyEE
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@johnkay7053 I've sent you a PM if you have a quick look when free.