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4G / Huawei B535 / 2nd router problem

GrumpyPatzer
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Hello everyone

 
This is my first post here.  I’m hoping you can help with a problem that is driving me mad.  Apologies for the long and rambling post, but I thought it worth giving as much background and information as possible.
 
I am in the Scottish Highlands with a rather unreliable ADSL2+ service from BT/Plusnet, so being able to reliably use EE’s 4G is important to us.  For some time, we have been successfully using a Poynting 4G-XPOL-A002 and Huawei B315 for 4G, via a Ubiquiti USG (which enables me to use the 4G in conjunction with the ADSL2+, such as it is).  So I appreciate that this is perhaps a slightly convoluted configuration, but it gives us the best possible broadband — which’s I say, is quite important to us, given the remote location.  Now, perhaps unwisely, I thought it might be worth upgrading the Huawei B315 to a B535-333, in the hope of gaining some extra download speed and, in addition, being able to control the configuration better than is possible with the B315 (which is fairly primitive).
 
The problem is that, with the USG connected to the B535 (just as I did successfully with the B315), I get absolutely no internet connection from anything connected to the ethernet and wireless that runs off the USG — which is our whole network, apart from one thing.
 
What works:
 
1.  The previous setup with USG connected to the B315: everything connected to the USG has perfect internet access.
 
2.  With the USG connected to the B535: ping6 (from the USG) to an IP v6 address.
 
3.  Internet access from an iPad connected direct to the B535’s wifi.  (This is of no practical use, because the 4G aerial and B535 are in a different building.)  The iPad is given several IP v6 addresses as well as an IP v4 one.
 
4.  Ping to google.com from the B535’s GUI diagnostic page.
 
What does not work:
 
1.  Nothing else from the USG or from any device connected to the its network.  (I have tried many things, including ping to an IPv4 address and ping/ping6 to a hostname from the USG.)
 
2.  Ping to 8.8.8.8 from the B535’s GUI diagnostic page.
 
This is all with the B535 in normal (DHCP) mode.  If I put it in bridge mode, nothing at all works, not even the ping6 from the USG to an IP v6 address.
 
Comments and (very!) tentative conclusion:
 
1.  The B315 appears to be operating purely as an IP v4 device, so the EE 4G network clearly tolerates that.  Whereas it “knows” that the B535 is v6-capable, so expects it to operate accordingly.  Incidentally, if I attempt to switch the B535 to IPv4-only operation, it fails to connect to the 4G network.
 
2.  I understand that the EE 4G network uses 464XLAT, correct?  So presumably the B535 does make use of that (which is presumably what is happening with the iPad connected directly).  But it seems entirely possible that either (a) the B535 and USG do not play well together in this regard; (b) there is a problem with the B535's 464XLAT's implementation; or (c) perhaps more likely, there is something wrong in the way I have configured the USG (although please bear in mind that it works fine with the B315, IPv4 only, of course).
 
3.  The fact that I can ping from the USG to an IPv6 address but not to a hostname (using either ping or ping6) makes me suspect that DNS requests are failing to work, possibly because they are not getting beyond the B535.  In fact, if I try “ping google.com” from the USG, 
 
Questions:
 
1.  Would you expect what I am trying to do — a second router (the USG) connected to the B535 — to work?
 
And if, at least in principle, it should:
 
2.  Would it have more chance of working with the B535 in bridge mode?  (Bearing in mind that even the ping6 to an IPv6 address stopped working when I tried this — although that may well be because the USG’s IPv6 config is wrong.)
 
3.  Any suggestions for configuration options to try?  (I have assumed DHCPv6 rather than a static IPv6 address and prefix delegation rather than static on the USG, for example.)
 
Any advice or thoughts that any of you can offer would be very much appreciated.  And thank you if you have taken the time to read this far!
 
Andrew
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Belated thanks once again, @EssexBoyEE 

You are, I think, quite correct about the data allowance.  My available data has reduced by well over 2GB since I switched to using the TM APN and there are no signs of any additional charges so I am as certain as I can be that it is working as expected.

Since I last posted, on Thursday evening (19th January), I have had an opportunity to connect the B535 with my EE SIM to a completely different mast.  Exactly the same problem: with both the default EE APN (dual v4/v6 stack) and IPv4-only (using everywhere / eesecure / secure), no IPv4 connection can be established and the B535 does not receive an IPv4 address.

This is, of course, what prevents my configuration with the second router from working (nor does there seem to be any way of enabling CLAT on the B535, given that there is no way to select IPv6-only mode), and presumably also causes some of the problems that other people have reported (essentially, anything that can’t use IPv6 and therefore requires a ‘native’ v4 connection will typically, and perhaps inevitably, not work).

So I do still want to pursue this with EE; there is, presumably, no guarantee that the TM APN will work indefinitely and, in any event, having IPv4 working as it should (when using a B535) would surely be better.  This thread has become rather long and conflates several things, so I will start a separate thread to focus specifically on the IPv4 connection failure (I’ll do this in a day or two after a bit more tinkering).

Andrew

Hi, 

 

The TM APN doesnt work anymore, it seems.  I tried setting this APN but I kept getting the warning that APN is incorrect.  Did you manage to find any other solution?