Replace EE Smarthub with Modem-Only for use with Orbi Router
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06-03-2024 05:37 PM
Hi @XRaySpeX,
I hope you don't mind me tagging you. I've been following several posts and appreciate your perspective.
What modem do you recommend? The context is below.
I was looking at the DrayTek Vigor 166. But my concern is that it would be a speed bottleneck because of this specification "Max ADSL2+ Sync Rate: 20Mb/s". Since my EE Broadband isn't fibre, I understand I won't use VDSL. I believe G.Fast was discontinued for new customers around 2021. The EE engineer confirmed it's copper going to the house. That leads me to believe I need a model that supports ADSL2+.
Challenge/Opportunity
- I'm switching from Virgin Media to EE Broadband Fibre 36 Essential (guaranteed at 32mbps; DSL, not fibre).
- I'd like to use my Orbi RBK50 as the router.
- The EE Smarthub (SH31B) does not support modem/bridge mode.
Proposed Solution
- Replace the EE Smarthub with a modem-only device that supports bridge mode.
- Configure the new modem:
- EE Point-to-Point Protocol over Ethernet (PPPoA);
- Modem/Bridge mode.
- Connect the Orbi RBK50 to the new modem via ethernet.
Desired Result
- Ability to fully leverage my Orbi RBK50 route and network performance.
- Ability to use EE Broadband to save money.
EE Broadband Fibre 36 Essential connected via phone cable to EE Smarthub (SH31B)
This is a quick overview of my Hub's status.
Keywords: third party router, Orbi, Mesh, Smarthub, Smart Hub, Virgin Media, DSL, modem, bridge
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06-03-2024 05:50 PM
@twilio a few observations.
1. You are not on ADSL2, but VDSL.
2. You don;t configure the modem to PPOA, you do that in your Orbi, but use PPOE.
3. Finding a VDSL modem is not easy these days, but you may find an old Openreach one on eBay or similar, the latest PN Smart Router has a Bridge option, or Draytek, or even an on TP Link 9970 i thinks the model is.
HTH
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06-03-2024 05:50 PM
@twilio a few observations.
1. You are not on ADSL2, but VDSL.
2. You don;t configure the modem to PPOA, you do that in your Orbi, but use PPOE.
3. Finding a VDSL modem is not easy these days, but you may find an old Openreach one on eBay or similar, the latest PN Smart Router has a Bridge option, or Draytek, or even an on TP Link 9970 i thinks the model is.
HTH
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06-03-2024 11:27 PM
Great, thank you. I understand better now.
I found the Vigor 166 on Amazon. That ought to be fit for purpose if I'm understanding things correctly.
Broadband Availability Checker: https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL/AddressFeatureProduct
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06-03-2024 11:34 PM
Yes, the Vigor 166 is compatible with your FTTC/VDSL Fibre connection.
To phone EE CS: Dial Freephone +44 800 079 8586 - Option 1 for Mobile Phone & Mobile Broadband or Option 2 for Home Broadband & Home Phone
ISPs: 1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up > 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB > 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB > 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU > 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU > 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC > 2014: EE 20 Meg WBC > 2020: EE 40 Meg FTTC > 2022:EE 80 Meg FTTC SoGEA > 2025 EE 150 Meg FTTP
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06-03-2024 11:49 PM
Thanks @twilio glad I was able to help.
Let us know if you have any issues setting up your modem/Orbi.

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