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EE Home Broadband default gateway setting?

ATonkin
Explorer

My browser, Chrome, randomly started diverting internet searches to something called s.onlinesearch.com, via a possibly bogus version of Bing.  It would all happen in blink of an eye.  You'd get the Google page with search results, then a bing-esque version, then this s.onlinesearch.com thing ... culminating in a blank 'no results found' type message.   

Curiosuly I could get onto the internet, albeit still diverting to Bing (seemingly genuine) if I connected via a Hotspot from my phone.   Checking the Router's settings I noticed the default DNS was 1.1.1.1, which I didn't think was right.  I chose to have it automatically set by my ISP and its now 87.237.17.168 and 87.237.17.200.  So far so good, as I've seen others mention those as being correct.  Are they ??

Secondly, I'd like to check that the default gateway should be 172.16.13.227 ?

Surprisingly, perhaps, i couldn't see anything here about default gateway besides people who have the wrong end of the stick saying its 192.168.0.1   Surely it need be an address for an EE server somewhere?  That said, my TP-Link AX6000 router appears to have no obvious way for me to change the default gateway, but I'd like some reassurance nonetheless.

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XRaySpeX
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  1. DNS of 1.1.1.1 (with secondary DNS of 1.0.0.1) is the public Cloudflare DNS. It is almost certainly preferable to any ISP DNS, being more up-to-date & reliable.
  2. EE DNS are in the range 87.237.16.0 - 87.237.19.255.
  3. My Gateway is 172.16.14.26. It is in fact a private IP addy used by BT as the gateway onto their network. You can't change it. It is auto set when you connect to the network.
  4. All I can find out about onlinesearch.com is that it belongs to PERFECT PRIVACY, LLC & is located in Stockholm for its VPNs.
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So your Gateway is 172.16.14.26; similar but different to mine.  How might I check that its not still something to do with someone that may or may not be in Stockholm, might you know??

XRaySpeX
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Your Gateway is in the same private IP range as mine. It has nowt to do with Perfect Privacy or Stockholm.

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To phone EE CS: Dial Freephone +44 800 079 8586 - Option 1 for Mobile Phone & Mobile Broadband or Option 2 for Home Broadband & Home Phone

ISPs: 1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up > 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB > 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB > 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU > 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU > 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC > 2014: EE 20 Meg WBC > 2020: EE 40 Meg FTTC > 2022:EE 80 Meg FTTC SoGEA > 2025 EE 150 Meg FTTP
Dave_Cardboard
Visitor

Old thread I know, but...

Be aware that in IP networking a "default gateway" and "default route" is not quite the same thing.

Client devices o a LAN have a "default gateway" ie where to send any IP traffic we don't otherwise know what to do with which in the SOHO use case is nearly always your router's internal IP address - eg 192.168.X.Y.

Routers have more complex routing decisions to make than client devices (though for the SOHO use case, not much more complex). They consult a table that describes where to send traffic based on it's destination (and sometime source) IP address. As such, routers do not have a "default gateway" but they may (often) have "catch all" route at the bottom of their routing table, which again for the simple SOHO use case is will be most likely somewhere up at your ISP. And may well be different for different users. For a SOHO network, the default route is almost certainly acquired (using DHCP) when your router connects to your ISP. (For "proper" big boys routers that I manage professionally, sometimes the "default route" might be something we "hard code " or might be to simply drop any traffic we cannot figure out what to do with! Or some equally obscure torture.)

Due to public IP (V4) address exhaustion, some ISP's use "private" IP address ranges upstream from the SOHO users (e.g. 172.16-31.X.Y  or 10.somethings) before NAT'ing the traffic out onto the public Internet proper.

None of this is anything to "worry" about, I would leave it well alone unless it's not working in which case you'd be best to contact your ISP rather than try to "fix" it yourself unless you really know what you are doing. To mis-quote Gene Kranz "don't potentially make things worse by guessing."

Incidentally, I tend to go with  the ISP's provided DNS servers - they will be "closer" (in terms of network hops) to you than  third party (which by definition is "outside" your ISP's network) and should be a little quicker to respond - not that I think it will be easy to measure, let alone "notice" in normal use, but I can see the arguments for those that want to use an alternate.