27-05-2024 07:14 PM
I have just signed up to EE/ BT broadband when someone knocked on my door and the gentleman said EE/BT when providing broadband don't share the line I use with other properties on our estate whereas other providers do hence in busy periods in the evenings other providers BB would be slower when the lines are busy, but it won't be the case with EE/BT as they don't share the line so in essence BT's 150mb speed is probably better than my current providers 200mb for the busier periods.
It sounded really good, but now I can't find that information when searching online, so wanted to know is that really the case?
Thanks!
27-05-2024 07:37 PM
@ADEELIO20 All of the lines are shared, the condition is called contention, and every ISP has a possibility for peak period slowdown of Internet Broadband, Now most of the time, or possibly never have you seen it, it all depends on what is happening at the time, easiest to explain would be watching a movie, the info is buffered, if buffering is good then you will have a smooth movie, if not then you will see it stuttering or pausing until buffer gets full again. OR sell the lines and there is only so much they can do, and there may be many ISP's and clients on them all with different speed's. If you need search for fttp speed contention and the following below is an extract from a BT reference. HTH
1. FTTP is a contended service, up to 32 users can be sharing the 2.5Gb backhaul, so you can never expect the full speed all the time, you may get 900mb when there are fewer people using it. I expect that you are sharing the backhaul with many users. If everyone was using it fully, you may only get 78mbs. Its called statistical multiplexing, which relies on the fact that all users are not utilising their connection fully, all of the time.
BT quote up to 900mb, so you are likely to get much less than that during peak times.
Speed tests pass very little data, so normally give a much higher speed.
2. The max OR connect to a splitter is 30 ( 32 is the splitter maximum but policy is 30 ) not every CBT port provided is likely to have a customer using it , so unless on a ‘new site’ that has no alternatives to OR FTTP the actual number on a splitter is likely to be way less , OR currently have about a 30% take up, so maybe 10 users per splitter , plus the majority don’t take 900Mb but slower profiles , and the chances of those ‘on line ‘ at any one time all and doing something intensive, rather than browsing / Netflix that may be consuming less than 30-100Mb , is slim , that’s why there is a 700Mb minimum speed guarantee on 900Mb …..the 2.4Gb will be plenty ,you would have to be incredibly unlucky to have any consistent congestion.
If you suspect PON congestion, try at a time when there won’t be much activity, late evening or early morning .
Although you have tried somethings to ‘ isolate’ the problem , the most obvious thing to do ( that you haven’t apparently tried ) is use the BT router , without doing that , you haven’t really proved anything , your third party router may great , but even great routers can be mis configured or faulty
27-05-2024 07:39 PM
@ADEELIO20 The line to your home is not shared with any other property. It’s your phone line. Even with fibre it’s your line.
27-05-2024 07:44 PM
If FTTP line is full your and not share But
FTTC is share in away
27-05-2024 07:57 PM
Thank you everyone!
27-05-2024 07:59 PM
Possibly for a different thread but will ask anyway........ the stated speeds are for wired connections, for wifi will I see much difference if I have say 150mb vs 300mb? I appreciate wifi speeds have several factors affecting like device used, walls and distance between the device and router, but assuming it all remained the same with a faster broadband speed actually increase the wifi speed? Or is wifi capped and it wouldn't really make a difference?
Thanks!
27-05-2024 08:53 PM
@ADEELIO20 The package you purchase from the ISP is the limit, if you buy 150mb/s, then that is all you get they cap it at that speed to your router, same if you do 300mb/s then capped at that speed. If you watch a 4kHD movie, it will take somewhere around 35mb/s download as a stream, then you count all that you need, so say you are up at 100mb/s of download, everything else is extra, getting the streamed speed over a wireless wi-fi device can be the possible issue, due to items you pointed out. It is all down to what you think is your requirement, and cost's between package pricing. HTH