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Can't switch on paused device as App updating with no warning AGAIN!!!

mariebie
Explorer

Is there any way to switch on a  paused device apart from the app? This is not the first time this has happened. No warning comes up on the app about scheduled work. Now when it is needed desperately we can't switch pause off and no one is working in customer service at this time. Bloody ridiculous that they don't send out sufficient warning! Any alternative udeas?

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XRaySpeX
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What paused device?

Which EE BB plan are you on? What EE router do you have?

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JimM11
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@mariebie Without the app working, then there is no way to un-pause the specific block that you have, if it were easy to do then kind of defeats the purpose. App maintenance, and web maintenance, router maintenance all have to be done sometime.

JimM11
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@mariebie App does appear to be up and online again.

Ben570
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"Without the app working, then there is no way to un-pause the specific block that you have, if it were easy to do then kind of defeats the purpose. App maintenance, and web maintenance, router maintenance all have to be done sometime." 

Maybe they should have implemented an actual useful admin web-interface in the hub and not decoupled it to a useless, buggy, infuriating mobile app that needs updates every five minutes!

JimM11
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@Ben570 And that would be the best feature ever, maybe someone somewhere is reading!!!

Chris_B
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@Ben570  But it’s not the app it’s accounts that have maintenance.  The app is a portal to your account and with accounts offline this will affect the app.  Any updates to the app are pushed out via the relevant App Store for that device then it’s your choice to install that update.   

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Ben570
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@Chris_B What in my account needs updating to unpause a device group on the router? An account is simply an identity and access management entity. Your EE account is not the one that performs the modification to the router setup. When you setup your app and connect it to the hub you either scan the QR code or input your router admin credentials. It's the router admin credentials that access the router setup, not your EE account details.

So, if I can log in to the router by opening https://192.168.1.254 and putting the router admin credentials into hub manager page, and not my EE account details, then the fact that maintenance is happening on the EE account side has not bearing. The problem is the workflow of the app is that you have to sign in to it with your EE account first then it connects to the hub. If the router still had a fully working admin interface of its own then users would be able to log into the router and make changes even when they couldn't with the app because of account maintenance.

Chris_B
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@Ben570  It’s not necessary your account,  it’s the servers that require working on so these have to be taken offline for this to happen so because the accounts are offline it effects the app to login to your account.    The app is just a portal to your account and it needs to  link to your account in order for it to work correctly.     Any maintenance to the servers or accounts always happens  late at night when it has the least effect on customers so basically if it’s going to happen it’s going to be from roundabout 10:30 -11 o’clock until sometime like 6 o’clock in the morning.     

It’s not done just to annoy you. 

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Ben570
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@Chris_B You can keep tuning the reason you give but it still stands that it's does not change what I said about having a router level web admin interface to unpause a device group. The servers being down need not prevent a user from changing wifi controls, it currently does because EE chose to expose the wifi controls in the mobile app only and not in the hub manager. 

You said "The app is just a portal to your account and it needs to  link to your account in order for it to work correctly." which is just another way of saying what I said above about the app workflow. But is also ignores the fact that technically EE could allow us to manage wifi controls like pausing without actually needing to be signed in with our EE account at all, it's just that they've setup the mobile app workflow that way currently. To explain further, you have linked two accounts to the app when you first set it up. First, you have linked your EE account as you have rightly pointed out. This will be used to pull data about your account and contract services into the app. It will not be used to pull the status or config of your router/hub. For that, the second account linked to the app is the hub admin account (the one printed on the back of the plastic insert on the back of the hub, the credentials of which are stored by the app when you either scanned the QR code or input the username and password manually). So now that the app has those two sets of credentials, it can query your account details from EE services, and it can query the hub status and config directly from the hub itself. 

In addition, you can log directly into the hub in a browser using the second account I mentioned above (the hub admin account) and manage a limited set of the configuration. You do not need the EE account to do this. However, the functionality of the hub manager directly on the hub is limited for some reason and this forces you to use the app. So, if, like I said originally, the hub had been given a fully functioning hub admin interface, we would not need to use the mobile app, ergo we could update the pausing and unpausing of the device groups without needing to login to the EE account. So it wouldn't matter if the account or the servers were unavailable because those are not where the WiFi control configurations are stored - they are on the router directly. Do you see the difference now and understand why I said  "they should have implemented an actual useful admin web-interface in the hub" to solve this problem of not being able to update the router config when the mobile app is affected by account access, be it server maintenance or app updates?