Hi @Chris_B ,
With the greatest of respect, the network and roaming networks have agreements for roaming based on data facilitated by the sim / esim, not the device.
There is absolutely no objective reason why you would allow an esim for iPhone / iPad to work and not allow esim for Apple Watch other than attempted profiteering by maximising data usage via a mobile phone / tablet as the data they consume is considerably higher than a watch would ever likely be.
Also for clarity, in none of the advertising is there a “*cellular voice and data access available in UK only”. In fact it sells itself on the fact that you can go out without your phone.
For many of us who bought the cellular data plan, there was also no clear information provided that roaming wasn’t supported on these devices, hence the number of threads on this over the years.
As much as you are trying to defend EE from this, as said before, the reality is there is absolutely nothing stopping EE from allowing this. Roaming agreements for sims are clearly already in place as per their mobile and other data plans.
If EE can give a good reason then I’m sure myself and many others would be willing to listen. If they made it clear on purchase of either the device or the plan then again we’d not be having these conversations. The reason they won’t is because it might actually prevent people from a purchase if made clear from the beginning, whereas on balance people are less likely to be able to return the device after owning it for a while and realising the limitation.
@Schockwave I disagree with you and completely agree with @Beastiehairy. Based on your response and on your title of "community hero" I'd refer you to my post in this thread on 15/10/23:
With the greatest of respect, the network and roaming networks have agreements for roaming based on data facilitated by the sim / esim, not the device.
There is absolutely no objective reason why EE would allow an esim for iPhone / iPad to work and not allow esim for Apple Watch other than attempted profiteering by maximising data usage via a mobile phone / tablet as the data they consume is considerably higher than a watch would ever likely be.
Also for clarity, in none of the advertising is there a “*cellular voice and data access available in UK only”. In fact it sells itself on the fact that you can go out without your phone.
For many of us who bought the cellular data plan, there was also no clear information provided that roaming wasn’t supported on these devices, hence the number of threads on this over the years.
As much as you are trying to defend EE from this, as I've said before, the reality is there is absolutely nothing stopping EE from allowing this. Roaming agreements for sims are clearly already in place as per their mobile and other data plans.
If EE can give a good reason then I’m sure myself and many others would be willing to listen. If they made it clear on purchase of either the device or the plan then again we’d not be having these conversations. The reason they won’t is because it might actually prevent people from a purchase if made clear from the beginning, whereas on balance people are less likely to be able to return the device after owning it for a while and realising the limitation.
