01-03-2022 10:10 PM
Can someone point me in the direction of the best Antenna for the 5gee router I got delivered today, EE tell me they don't sell one to go with it?!
23-10-2022 08:38 PM
I did it myself. Up a ladder. Got a pole and a drill. Not much fun to be honest. Suppose it depends on your property
29-10-2022 12:45 PM
Hi @EssexBoyEE
This is really helpful. I have just installed a Three 5G router as EE not available in my area. The download speeds are great at 200Mbps but upload is low at around 3mbps. Three support is useless as they don't know anything about external antennas 😞
I am planning to install a Poynting 4x4 Omni antenna for 5G - 5G-XPOL-1-V2-41 but cannot see any numbers on the pins at the back of the router which is NR5103E which I think is a Huawei 5G CPE pro.
Are you able to advise on the pin positions i.e primary/secondary or cell1/cell2 as per the Poynting lables?
I'll do a search for images. Thanks for your help
29-10-2022 02:50 PM
@Manpreet55 wrote - I am planning to install a Poynting 4x4 Omni antenna for 5G - 5G-XPOL-1-V2-41 but cannot see any numbers on the pins at the back of the router which is NR5103E which I think is a Huawei 5G CPE pro. Are you able to advise on the pin positions i.e primary/secondary or cell1/cell2 as per the Poynting lables?
The Three Network NR5103 is the same Router (Zxyel NR5103) just that its a lightly different Model with an E on the end and covers different Firmware and Freq Bands, but Im not sure on Threes Antenna Config is the same. or whether the Switch applies to all 4 Ports or just 2. but if I was to hazard a good guess, I would say it's the same of Paired Ports 1/2 and 3/4.
There is still some confusion on the EE Router as to how the Ports are paired and configured, my belief is it dependant on the 5G Freq Band and how its switched, ie 5G NR Bands n28 (Low 700mhz), Bands n1, n3, n7 (Mid 1800 to 2700mhz) and n78, n79 (High 3400 to 3800mhz), all very confusing as EE have started to use all of these Bands now but in different Locations in 5G Coverage.
As your Poynting Antenna covers All the above Bands in either 4x4 or 2 lots of 2x2 MiMo, then it shouldn't really make that difference as long as you keep the MiMo Pairs together, eg -
Treat the Router as 4 Ports, from the top Port 1, then 2 and 3 down to Port 4 at the Bottom, and treat the Antenna Pairs as 2x2 MiMo + 2x2 Mimo (4x4 Total)
The Ponyting will probably be Cable marked as
Pair 1 = 1Main and 1Dev OR 1A and 2A OR +45 and -45, and the Second Pair something simular like Pair 1 = 2Main and 2Dev OR 2A and 2A OR 2+45 and 2-45.
Just remember to think of the 4 Cables as Pairs of 2 as above, this is the important bit.
Now just plug your 2 Pairs into the Router Ports 1 and 2 (Pair 1) and Ports 3 and 4 (Pair 2).
29-10-2022 03:37 PM
Thanks for the speedy response @EssexBoyEE reallly appreciated. Just waiting for the SMA to TS0 adaptors and will give it a go.
Any thoughts on the upload speed?
26-12-2022 10:46 PM
Hi All,
I've read this thread with interest and thanks to all the contributors. I think I now "get it". I run 2021 EE 5g home hub (the Zyxel) as a backup for my main internet connection. I've re-worked my (over-engineered) home network and have just dropped in an upgraded firewall. The short version of this means I can better direct latency sensitive traffic out of the low latency uplink (instead of the 5g uplink). I will move the config from failover to load balanced on that basis.
Now that the 5g uplink can become a "primary" uplink I wondered what the score was with the received wisdom on external antennae.
For space and install convenience reasons a single 4x4 rather than 2x2 makes sense for me.
The short list seems to be:
https://www.panorama-antennas.com/site/DWMM4G-6-60
https://www.netxl.com/directional-antennas/poynting-xpol-24/
https://poynting.tech/antennas/xpol-1-5g/
Any opinions? I'll trust the wisdom to the crowd and post the speedtest 😉
Cheers,
NetworkingNerd
31-12-2022 03:47 PM - edited 31-12-2022 03:52 PM
Okay, hello, long term watcher, first time poster.
I have been using EE 2021 5G router on their network since June. I have been using this external antenna https://quwireless.com/product/QuPanel-5G-LTE-MIMO-4x4
I have ready that antenna ports on my router go from bottom to top 1,2,3,4. There for I have my antenna connected as such.
A1 +45 to number 1 / A1 -45 to number 3
A2 +45 to number 2 / A2 -45 to number 4
My speeds aren’t great, not in my opinion, but I have moved from FTTP connection to this.
im getting between 50 to 70 up most the time and matched upload, strangely enough. On off peak times though I can hit 125 download.
I have no idea if my cables are plugged in correctly, I have swapped them around a few times but never find notable differences in speeds.
I have routers Wi-Fi switched off, and a ethernet cable connected directly to my eero mesh. I have the eero test my connection speed as it measures what’s coming in from the EE router.
I live in CH53JF and have no idea if my antenna is pointing in right direction. And don’t know how to check.
my router occasion connects to 5g, but single is weak. 4G connections are strong though.
Current connection details
RSRP -84dBm
RSSI -76dBm
Band B3+B3
Cell ID 7153153
any advice welcome.
kind regards
Tim
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02-01-2023 10:22 AM
Thanks Tim,
Annoyingly I obviously haven't set profile settings to get email notifications so I didn't see this until now.
I *do* get 5g but only at the front of the house. I've just run a speed test from my firewall out and I get 125mb down and 32mb up. It's 1g wired to the unit which is acting as a dumb gateway. It's actually being trunked over 10g so there should be no limitation on this side of the antenna.
I have previously got 270mb with the previous unit and an external antenna. I'd seen that QU, it seemed new though so people not having much experience with it. It does seem to be demonstrably cheaper than some of the other offerings though, and seeing as how this is *part* of the overall internet might be a good tradeoff.
Only thing I could imagine is if you're able to attempt anything to improve the position of the antenna itself.
Regards,
NN
10-01-2023 11:14 AM
Hello,
In excellent weather conditions, I'm getting speeds from 70-150 mb (DL) and upload 10/15 (I think) with my window open and the router placed in the window. I'm intrigued if buying this antenna Mimo 4x4 will improve my connection speed or is not worth it because I live in a flat and the antenna will be in the same spot as the modem.
14-01-2023 12:32 PM - edited 14-01-2023 12:32 PM
Hi All,
I bought the Poynting 5G 4x4 in the end. Configured with Main/Aux 1 and 2, one after the other from top to bottom on the back of the unit for all four connections. Just note that you'll also need SMA female to TC9 male adaptors.
Just the external antenna at the window got me from 135 to 165 but if I actually was able to direct it, i.e. outside, I went from 165 to 310.
I'm going to try to work out how to get the cabling outside.
Question on that, how many meters, practically can that run for? The unit came with 5 meters but can I extend it?
Cheers all,
NN
16-02-2023 07:36 PM
Hi Simon which booster did you buy please?