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Termination Charge Scam

Dave4813
Investigator
Investigator

I recently switched from Lit Fibre to EE and unfortunately have had some unexpected issues when dealing with EE regarding their promise of paying early termination charges from a previous provider.

Initially I went on to the EE website to enquire about switching as I had seen the TV advert stating EE would pay up to £300 termination charges from the previous supplier when you switch to EE.

This was confirmed by the salesperson on live chat and subsequently, I signed up with EE and cancelled my services with Lit, my now previous provider.

I confirmed with Lit the early termination charges which came to a total of £110. I informed EE of this with proof via email, at which point they said they would not do anything with it until the 14-day cooling off period with EE had passed. I thought that was fair enough and waited until I was out of the cooling-off period.

Once out of the 14-period with EE and locked into my contract, I sent the Switch Team at EE documentation confirming the termination charges of £110, the documentation at this time was two separate PDF files from Lit, stating the total fees of £110 for ending my contact early.

EE then came back and said it was not sufficient, that they needed an invoice/bill stating my name, address, account number and total termination charge listed.

I went back to Lit, who were happy to provide this. Although their method for showing these details were a little odd, they sent the documentation over to me. It was split into three invoices.

Invoice 1 - £43 for termination of 'WiFi Pack 1' Services
Invoice 2 - £38 for termination of 'Lit 1000' Services
Invoice 3 - £29 for termination

I found this a bit of a strange way to word it, so I did confirm with Lit that all three charges were a result of cancelling my contract early. They confirmed this was the case.

I then sent the three invoices to the EE Switch Team along with the confirmation from Lit that these were the total termination charges.

EE then emailed back stating that the total termination charges of £29 had been credited to my account. I immediately went back to EE explaining again that the total charge was £110, not £29 and received no reply.

I then went back to Lit and asked them to generate a new, single invoice stating the total termination charges in one file. Again, they were happy to provide this and promptly sent me a new PDF invoice.

Invoice - Total Termination Charges - £110

So, I then sent this over to EE Switch Team, who then e-mailed back stating that as the credit of £29 had been applied, they cannot amend it and suggested I call customer services to discuss.

I then called customer services, who after an hour of questioning me and asking me to resend the documents, said the only thing they can do is escalate it to the Switch Team on my behalf. It was painful hour-long phone call, the line was bad, the advisor was clearly not confident in his role and when I asked to speak to his team leader an hour into the call, I was informed I couldn't at that time. I was then told I would be called back with 24 hours. I asked to raise a complaint as this point as I feel the experience had reached a point where I am not only out of pocket, but it's now cost me time and stress.

I was insured a complaint had been raised and I would hear back regarding this.

Three hours later, I received an e-mail to say my complaint had been resolved. I logged onto the EE website to see if I could view any bill credit, assuming common sense had prevailed and the £110 had been applied. I could see no bill credit at all on my account, not even the incorrect amount of £29 that was previously stated had been applied.

I did send one final email to the Switch Team and they replied stating I should call customer services and sent me a link to their terms and conditions for switching providers.

The only reason I switched to EE at the time was because I was promised my early termination charges would be covered. Once I had switched and was out of my cooling-off period, it really felt like they 'got' me.

As customer services don't seem to know what to do about it, and consider the Switch Team almost as a different company that they can't speak on behalf of, and clearly the complaints system does not work, I am now forced to go down a different path.

I have now contacted a reporter for the national press who has heard of a similar story and is willing to publish the story. Not an avenue I ever wanted or expected to go down but feel I am now out of options.

It's now a matter of principle and not so much about the money. In a time where corporate greed seems to be running rampant and people are struggling to make ends meet, I can't just let this one go as other people I'm sure will suffer the same fate.

I couldn't be more disappointed with EE's handling of this and I write this in the hope that it helps at least one other person avoid suffering this poor treatment.

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XRaySpeX
EE Community Star
EE Community Star

@Dave4813 : Any credit you get won't appear until your next bill is posted.

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To phone EE CS: Dial Freephone +44 800 079 8586 - Option 1 for Mobile Phone & Mobile Broadband or Option 2 for Home Broadband & Home Phone

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Be that as it may, this is more about the overall treatment of a customer and broken promises from EE.

Northerner
EE Community Star
EE Community Star

Hi @Dave4813 

The terms of the offer are here:

https://ee.co.uk/help/broadband/getting-started/early-cancellation-credit

If you choose to switch your broadband, calls and line rental from another UK consumer broadband provider to EE, you'll be able to claim up to £300 towards the early termination charges you may pay to your provider for ending your agreement early, credited to your EE account. The offer applies to Consumer Broadband, TV package and Home phone termination charges only, it excludes other termination charges. This offer is by invitation only to new EE Broadband customers signing up to any EE Broadband or EE Broadband and TV.

Invoice 1 £43 and 2 £38 would seem to fall into other termination charges. Invoice 3 £29 is the termination charges as per the terms and conditions. That is how I would read the deal but having not used the service I would revert to @XRaySpeX who is more knowledgeable in this area. 

Thanks 




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Peter_W
EE Community Support Team

Hi @Dave4813.

Thanks for taking the time to share your experience here. 

As @Northerner has highlighted here, usually any termination charges covered would be for standard broadband packages rather than any supplementary services, but it does sound like the provider you've switched from have broken things down in an atypical manner. 

If they have now explained the charges further, I'd recommend getting back in touch and requesting the complaint is reopened, and we can investigate from there. 

Complaints can be reopened at any point within 28 days of closure, or alternatively you can also raise this directly for investigation with our dedicated complaints team too.

Peter

This seems to boil down to what names Lit give their products. All ISPs have their own pet names & the EE Switch Team should make it their business in ascertaining these as they only request from the user the losing ISP's bill/invoice which obviously will always be written in their own terminology.

In this case it seems to me that Invoice 1 is for a WiFi Extender Pack & Invoice 2 is for 1000 Meg Full Fibre BB. Both of these should have been allowable. Only Invoice 3 is undetermined & therefore in doubt.

If you think I helped please feel free to hit the "Thumbs Up" button below.

To phone EE CS: Dial Freephone +44 800 079 8586 - Option 1 for Mobile Phone & Mobile Broadband or Option 2 for Home Broadband & Home Phone

ISPs: 1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up > 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB > 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB > 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU > 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU > 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC > 2014: EE 20 Meg WBC > 2020: EE 40 Meg FTTC > 2022:EE 80 Meg FTTC SoGEA > 2025 EE 150 Meg FTTP

When I had the initial live chat with EE, the advisor told me that 'all' termination charges would be reimbursed up to the value of £300. I agree that the way Lit had split and described their termination charges was somewhat over-complicated, which is why I went back to Lit and asked them to clarify that all charges were in fact, termination charges as a direct result of my ending my contract early and going to another provider. They clarified that this was in fact the case and went to the trouble to generate a new invoice, detailing the total amount of £110 was in fact termination charges, directly as a result of ending my contract early.TC.png

At this point, Lit have no real obligation to assist me any further, but they have and continue to be more helpful than EE and I'm no longer a Lit customer.

I've spoken to some other customers today who have had similar issues, mostly customers that have left Sky, as the wording on their final bills sounds similar in that it's not clear enough for EE/leaves room for interpretation/opportunity not to pay.

All I am asking for is what was promised to me when I signed up. If I knew this would be the result of switching, I would have ran my contract out with Lit before considering a move and knowing what I know about EE now, would never have switched to them at all.

JimM11
Brilliant Contributor
Brilliant Contributor

@Dave4813 Do you still not have the copy of the live chat somewhere, you could use that, the £30 limit any EE CS can approve that as far as i am aware, when i left EE one off the reason's was refunds, just told them to stick it where the sun does not shine. Might have been my down fall you just never know, arguing just does not help!

@JimM11  Unfortunately not, I didn't think to save the chat.

I know what you mean. I'm not usually one to argue like this, but to be flat-out lied to just to get me to sign up and then all the issues since, it just seems so wrong. I'm so fed up with these companies treating hard-working people like this, it happens so often across so many industries and it's just so wrong. It's not even about the money anymore, they need to be held accountable for lying to people to gain their business and then backing out of their promises after the cooling-off period. If EE ever actually issue the £110 bill credit, I will quite happily donate the same amount to charity, I just want EE to be held accountable for their blatant deception in the hope this doesn't happen to anybody else in the future.

Dave4813
Investigator
Investigator

So, today's update...

I received an email back from the Switch Team, stating because the latest amended invoice simply says 'termination charge', it is not enough for them to process a claim and it has to specify 'broadband'. I did explain that the only service Lit Fibre provide is broadband, but that was also not good enough.

So I have now gone back to Lit, for what I think is the fourth time, asking them to amend the invoice once again. To Lit's credit, they have been so helpful and as a company they are brilliant to their customers, I really regret leaving them and would urge anyone who has access to their services to sign up with them.

Anyway, they have again sent back a revised invoice, idiot-proof this time, stating 'early termination charges for broadband services'. I have now sent this back to the Switch Team to see what holes they can find in that description.

Ofcom also responded quite quickly, they are aware of this issue with EE and have received quite a few other complaints. I now have to wait 8 weeks from the initial complaint before I can escalate it further but am taking the internal complaint further with EE up the chain, following information received from Ofcom.

Oh, and the customer service advisor I spent over an hour on the phone with the day before yesterday, who assured me would call me back yesterday, didn't. Imagine my surprise.

Now I wait to see the response from the Switch Team regarding the latest revision on the invoice.