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I upgradaed to full fibre 900 and the speed is very inconsistent over Ethernet

mrhuk
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 I had full fibre installed on the 3rd of Feb,  and for the first week or so I was getting 930Mbps solid, but for the past few days it has been varying between 700-850Mbps. I know the "stay fast guarantee" is only 700Mbps, but losing  at times 230Mbps doesn't seem right to me. 

I've tried 3 different CAT8 cables, from 3 different brands (overkill, I know) and it's the same. The strange thing is I'm getting almost the same speed via wireless on my iPhone 16, whereas when it was originally installed Ethernet was about 200Mbps faster than wireless. I have installed the latest drivers for my network card, and disabled all energy saving features. 

I had to unplug the ONT once and I'm wondering if that could have caused the drop? I know there's a line training period of about a week or so, and I hope I didn't hurt myself by having to unplug the ONT during that period. My line has been rock solid stable.

I've also been having an issue where it will say the Ethernet cable is not plugged in, when it is. So either the Ethernet port on my motherboard is failing, or it's a fault with the Pro router. I have a very high-end motherboard that's less than a year old, so I doubt it's that.

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JimM11
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@mrhuk There is virtually no line training period, you are on a FF Full Fibre connection, when you have NO connection on the pc check to see what the sync properties of the NIC is at, are you connecting at 2.5Gb/s with the nic to the Pro hub or 1Gb/s by default, the EE app or a fast.com speed test should show you the split to the Router and to the device?

The line is all shared so test a few times and at different periods off the day so you can see the average, and ideally with ONLY one device on the connection unless you are aware how good all your wireless devices are and not causing any background activity!

Ah, the engineer said there was a training period. I haven't dropped connection since I made the post, but it's still not as fast as it was, again it's not slow, but dropping 100Mbps seems odd to me (that's more than my old connection, which was 80Mbps).

I've found Speedtest.net to be the most accurate, Fast.com is too fast so it never reaches its peak. I've tried testing in the morning, afternoon, evening and even at like 2-3am, and it's always the same. I've tried disabling wireless entirely from the hubs page and it made no difference to the Ethernet speed. 

JimM11
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@mrhuk Link up one off your test, here is a FF500 on a speedtest.net

https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/d/34b41020-ed0f-4e84-ab1e-03d979742afc

JimM11
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@mrhuk Also for you from OR pubs!

1. FTTP is a contended service, up to 32 users can be sharing the 2.5Gb backhaul, so you can never expect the full speed all the time, you may get 900mb when there are fewer people using it. I expect that you are sharing the backhaul with many users. If everyone was using it fully, you may only get 78mbs. Its called statistical multiplexing, which relies on the fact that all users are not utilising their connection fully, all of the time.

BT quote up to 900mb, so you are likely to get much less than that during peak times.

Speed tests pass very little data, so normally give a much higher speed.

2. The max OR connect to a splitter is 30 ( 32 is the splitter maximum but policy is 30 ) not every CBT port provided is likely to have a customer using it , so unless on a ‘new site’ that has no alternatives to OR FTTP the actual number on a splitter is likely to be way less , OR currently have about a 30% take up, so maybe 10 users per splitter , plus the majority don’t take 900Mb but slower profiles , and the chances of those ‘on line ‘ at any one time all and doing something intensive, rather than browsing / Netflix that may be consuming less than 30-100Mb , is slim , that’s why there is a 700Mb minimum speed guarantee on 900Mb …..the 2.4Gb will be plenty ,you would have to be incredibly unlucky to have any consistent congestion.

If you suspect PON congestion, try at a time when there won’t be much activity, late evening or early morning .


Although you have tried somethings to ‘ isolate’ the problem , the most obvious thing to do ( that you haven’t apparently tried ) is use the BT router , without doing that , you haven’t really proved anything , your third party router may great , but even great routers can be mis configured or faulty

 

I'm using the EE Pro router. 

JimM11
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@mrhuk In reference to what, the EE Pro is still on a FF900 feed delivered by OR to you?

You said I'm using a 3rd party router, which I'm not, I'm using the EE Pro, which is what they give you. 

JimM11
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@mrhuk I never mentioned anything about any third party router! If it's all about the OR Pubs that is the complete document from them explaining 900Mb/s is NOT to be expected all off the time, you have NO idea what the uptake on your Fibre is like!


@JimM11 wrote:

1. FTTP is a contended service, up to 32 users can be sharing the 2.5Gb backhaul, so you can never expect the full speed all the time, you may get 900mb when there are fewer people using it. I expect that you are sharing the backhaul with many users. If everyone was using it fully, you may only get 78mbs. Its called statistical multiplexing, which relies on the fact that all users are not utilising their connection fully, all of the time.

BT quote up to 900mb, so you are likely to get much less than that during peak times.

Speed tests pass very little data, so normally give a much higher speed.

2. The max OR connect to a splitter is 30 ( 32 is the splitter maximum but policy is 30 ) not every CBT port provided is likely to have a customer using it , so unless on a ‘new site’ that has no alternatives to OR FTTP the actual number on a splitter is likely to be way less , OR currently have about a 30% take up, so maybe 10 users per splitter , plus the majority don’t take 900Mb but slower profiles , and the chances of those ‘on line ‘ at any one time all and doing something intensive, rather than browsing / Netflix that may be consuming less than 30-100Mb , is slim , that’s why there is a 700Mb minimum speed guarantee on 900Mb …..the 2.4Gb will be plenty ,you would have to be incredibly unlucky to have any consistent congestion.

If you suspect PON congestion, try at a time when there won’t be much activity, late evening or early morning .


Although you have tried somethings to ‘ isolate’ the problem , the most obvious thing to do ( that you haven’t apparently tried ) is use the BT router , without doing that , you haven’t really proved anything , your third party router may great , but even great routers can be mis configured or faulty

 


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