01-07-2025 07:58 PM
The latest f/ware updated SH+'s allow you to config your own DNS instead of using EE's or does it?
My f/ware today updated to version r3.8.11-R-1414606-PROD-83002 & the ability to not have AUTO DNS Servers but to config your own appeared under Advanced Settings > My Network. So I set them to OpenDNS (208.67.222.222 & 208.67.220.220). Browsing & suchlike still works.
However the page Advanced > BB > Internet still shows the BT servers:
Broadband primary DNS: 81.139.56.100
Broadband secondary DNS: 81.139.57.100
So which set of DNS is the router using?
(I did reboot router in between so that changes take effect as it advised.)
I've only just had this f/ware update. I dunno when configurable DNS 1st appeared in the f/ware updates. Anybody remember?
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02-07-2025 05:23 PM
@XRaySpeX - you're comparing Apples with Oranges.
@XRaySpeX wrote:My f/ware today updated to version r3.8.11-R-1414606-PROD-83002 & the ability to not have AUTO DNS Servers but to config your own appeared under Advanced Settings > My Network. So I set them to OpenDNS (208.67.222.222 & 208.67.220.220).
Doing this is asking the hub to assign custom DNS server addresses as part of its DHCP offer i.e. when the hub issues a LAN IP to clients, it also issues the DNS addresses you have specified. If you were to run something like ipconfig from a connected Windows machine then you would see that the network interface has the custom DNS assigned. This means your connected devices are going 'straight to the source' for DNS requests, rather than proxying/forwarding them through the hub.
@XRaySpeX wrote:However the page Advanced > BB > Internet still shows the BT servers:
Broadband primary DNS: 81.139.56.100
Broadband secondary DNS: 81.139.57.100
These are the DNS addresses assigned to the PPPoE/WAN interface of the router. They are assigned by the RADIUS equipment out on the Broadband network. Any DNS requests your hub makes is using these resolvers.
@XRaySpeX wrote:So which set of DNS is the router using?
The router is using the BT/EE DNS; Your connected devices are using your custom DNS.
Assigning custom DNS via DHCP is probably the preferred method (rather than changing the hub's DNS) as it's removing a hop/point of failure from the mix.
02-07-2025 08:18 AM - edited 02-07-2025 08:33 AM
@XRaySpeX Think it was one FW release back from what you have now! List below versions but may not be the date 100%. Someone posted when the feature appeared.
SH31B
FW: r1.35.0-R-1138091-PROD-83002 and the gui is at App version: 1.13.1.
FW: r2.68.11-R-1260390-PROD-83002
FW: r2.68.12-R-1270837-PROD-83002 and the gui is at App version 2.36.4. 09/01/2025
FW: r2.68.16-R-1296172-PROD-83002 and the gui is at App version 2.36.4. 31/01/2025
FW: r2.68.17-R-1303190-PROD-83002 and the gui is at App version 2.36.4. 14/02/2025
FW: r2.68.18-R-1303195-PROD-83002 and the gui is at App version 2.36.4. 11/02/2025
FW: r2.72.2-R-1302577-PROD-83002 and the gui is at App version 2.36.9. ??/04/2025
FW: r2.72.3-R-1302579-PROD-83002 and the gui is at App version 2.36.9. 11/04/2025
FW: r3.8.11-R-1414606-PROD-83002 and the gui is at App version 2.36.9. 23/06/2025
02-07-2025 09:44 AM
Thanks, @JimM11 .
02-07-2025 09:51 AM
@XRaySpeX You should just check that your DNS resolver is where you are expecting it to be with your configured values!
02-07-2025 09:55 AM
How do I do that?
02-07-2025 09:56 AM - edited 02-07-2025 10:01 AM
@XRaySpeX Always found this to be fairly good, https://dnscheck.tools/
I use google so partial sample of what is returned below.
02-07-2025 10:02 AM
That appears to say that my DNS Resolver is both BT servers & OpenDNS servers. So I'm none the wiser!
02-07-2025 10:13 AM - edited 02-07-2025 10:17 AM
@XRaySpeX Then you are going to have to trust what the EE Smarthub+ has done, and by the looks of it may just not be right, only way now is for you to Flush you DNS cache on your PC to get rid off all just in case!
One off the reason's with EE NOT even sure how they have implemented the DNS resolver, i would have expected you program what you want and it over writes what EE is trying to force on the Router!
I am 100% google, no mention of the Sky DNS server's but i do have my Asus up front and centre! Can post the whole returned list if you need!
02-07-2025 10:23 AM
What Asus looks like.
Asus DNS settings
02-07-2025 10:41 AM
Well, if it's using both DNS, OpenDNS & BT, somehow, it's not what I intended to replace EE's with my own & not what many other routers would do like your Asus.