24-06-2024 06:35 AM
So I had my Openreach ONT replaced for a 2.5gb version Wednesday last week. Minus a blip Wednesday afternoon the speed tests had been 1.6gbps upwards until Saturday night. since then I've dropped to 160mbps to 230mbps from the network to the Superhub Plus. Got an Openreach engineer coming Wednesday but I wonder if I'm now in this circuit of Openreach saying no it's not us and EE saying it's not us. I don't want to keep having the Smarthub replaced as that means reconnecting 50 devices and 3 boosters.
Yes I did read the reviews on here but kind of hoped that any issues had been resolved due to how far EE was now into the 'trial'
24-06-2024 07:19 AM
@DaveI-88 As you are using the EE Smarthub+ as your router you can expect approx 900mb/s on an ethernet connected device, and up to max speed on a wireless wifi6 AX connected, With the speed mentioned i have to assume you were trying a high speed wireless test, you need to have all other wi-fi devices off when testing. Below some info regarding the fibre.
1. FTTP is a contended service, up to 32 users can be sharing the 2.5Gb backhaul, so you can never expect the full speed all the time, you may get 900mb when there are fewer people using it. I expect that you are sharing the backhaul with many users. If everyone was using it fully, you may only get 78mbs. Its called statistical multiplexing, which relies on the fact that all users are not utilising their connection fully, all of the time.
BT quote up to 900mb, so you are likely to get much less than that during peak times.
Speed tests pass very little data, so normally give a much higher speed.
2. The max OR connect to a splitter is 30 ( 32 is the splitter maximum but policy is 30 ) not every CBT port provided is likely to have a customer using it , so unless on a ‘new site’ that has no alternatives to OR FTTP the actual number on a splitter is likely to be way less , OR currently have about a 30% take up, so maybe 10 users per splitter , plus the majority don’t take 900Mb but slower profiles , and the chances of those ‘on line ‘ at any one time all and doing something intensive, rather than browsing / Netflix that may be consuming less than 30-100Mb , is slim , that’s why there is a 700Mb minimum speed guarantee on 900Mb …..the 2.4Gb will be plenty ,you would have to be incredibly unlucky to have any consistent congestion.
If you suspect PON congestion, try at a time when there won’t be much activity, late evening or early morning .
Although you have tried somethings to ‘ isolate’ the problem , the most obvious thing to do ( that you haven’t apparently tried ) is use the BT router , without doing that , you haven’t really proved anything , your third party router may great , but even great routers can be mis configured or faulty
24-06-2024 07:32 AM
Hi,
Is the actual speed test on the EE app to test the network up to the Smarthub which is giving the below speed guarantee performance. Individual devices when this speed was correct was pulling around 700mbps.
24-06-2024 07:37 AM - edited 24-06-2024 07:38 AM
@DaveI-88 When it is quite what is the speed test like, your picture has to be approved to be viewed, so it will take sometime.
And with Ethernet preferred as the testing medium.
24-06-2024 08:03 AM
Speed test at 0130 in the morning, was 180mbps. Surely the testing method WiFi or Ethernet doesn’t matter because the issue is the speed to the hub. I’m not concerned with any of the WiFi speeds but the actual speed to the router
24-06-2024 08:07 AM
Don't worry, the images were awaiting approval. I have now done so & they should appear soon.
24-06-2024 08:11 AM
@DaveI-88 wrote:
1.6gb Busiest Home only good for a single home with no streaming
Really? I can do that with 80 Meg Fibre & still stream and used to do that on 20 Meg ADSL 😉
24-06-2024 08:11 AM
@DaveI-88 Like any new device, the failure point is normally in the first couple of day's so you may be just unlucky. You have 1.6Gb/s package, this is shared with ALL of your devices, so there is no way of knowing what they are doing at any one point in time, ie that is why you switch off all wireless to test with only one device. Once you know how your home is you can compensate by taking a relative amount off. The OR engineer will remove your connection and test from the ONT onwards for the speed test.
24-06-2024 06:10 PM
Sorry don’t know if it’s me not being clear or you not understanding.
my issue is not with the speed of the WiFi to the devices itself. The issue is the speed of the ‘network’ as in the FTTP network to the actual router. My screenshot previously sent is the speed that they physical fttp is downloading and uploading before it gets to my devices. I’m well aware that the 1.3gbps minimum speed is split out amongst the 50 devices on the WiFi but the speed before it splits out isn’t what it should be.
reading other comments on the forum this is a common issue a few days after the ONT is swapped resulting in numerous visits from open reach pointing their fingers at EE and EE pointing their fingers at openreach.
my issues is not the WiFi speed to the devices but the actual speed before any splitting to devices happens
24-06-2024 06:50 PM
@DaveI-88 And how do you know that speed is not correct?