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Meaningful Credit Check information

_thevirtualnerd
Explorer

Does anyone have clear information on what information is requested and validated with a credit check?  I've attempted to purchase an iPhone 15 Pro MAX with a Pay Monthly All-Rounder SIM.  The request was declined, citing that my credit check failed.

I have access to the credit file and can see that EE Limited (and BTG (BT, EE, PLUSNET)) undertook simultaneous soft searches against my file, one as 'Identity verification' and the other as 'authentication check'.

I have a pristine file with nothing to note on it. All active agreements are healthy, payments are regularly updated, and balances are closed down.  No sooner had I been declined, I then purchased the same phone directly from Apple instead.  I pick that up tomorrow.  Seems odd that one place declines and another accepts

I then went to purchase a sim only contract from EE, and this was also declined.

I've spoken to several EE colleagues who have been very supportive but unable to provide any clarity on what has caused the decline.  I've spoken to my bank to ensure there is no tags/flags to indicate a cyber actor at play; I've checked with Equifax who advise on speaking to EE to understand what criteria is used to measure the credit worthiness of a customer; when I repeated that back to EE - this seemed to stump the four people I've been passed  between.  I'm not having a pop or inciting any frustration, I just need to get clarity on what appears to be a completely ambiguous process with no clear answers on the reasons for a decline.  Anyone any clues?

 

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Northerner
EE Community Star
EE Community Star

Hi @_thevirtualnerd 

If it was common knowledge then people could commit fraud. 

It could be anything from time at the address to electoral roll, number of recent credit searches, new credit applications or amount already on finance. EE have their own criteria and on this occasion you didn't meet that criteria. 

https://ee.co.uk/help/billing-payments/payment-methods/credit-files-explained

Thanks 




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bristolian
EE Community Star
EE Community Star

Every organisation who uses CRA's will have their own internal scoring.

This is another reason why anyone who sells you a "credit score" is exploiting a misunderstanding of how the credit file system works.

Hi @Northerner 

Thanks for your response, but you've misunderstood my question. However,  the link that you've shared has a contact email address that I'll write to.  Thanks for sharing.

Rodders3536
Explorer

Hey! 
so EE use Experian now for there full credit checks and equifax for soft searches. I would email in credit referrals and get them to look at this because computers do get it wrong. I know for a fact that Barclays and apple are a tight bunch so if you passed with them I have no doubt your pass with ee numerous errors cause this. 

crdecisiondisputes@ee.co.uk  48 hour to hear back but please allow additional time because of the time of year! 

October88
Established Contributor
Established Contributor

Hi! 

did you get this issue resolved? It’s very odd to be declined with EE and accepted with Barclays/Apple they have one of the highest refusal rates during the festive season, Telecoms normally 7/10 times are relatively more easier to pass compared with Apples Broker, a mere disgusting 3/10, I was very very close to accepting the loan agreement with Barclays until it dawned on me as I travel and use my hot spot a lot it’s more valuable to be with EE, on the full works plan, I was lucky to get 2 iPad Pro 13” Nano textured considering the cost of them now it’s becoming ridiculous 

good luck and all the best

 

Ryanair
Visitor

Same thing happened to me. 

Applied for EE FlexPay and was declined

Applied direct through Apple for a BPF loan and was immediately approved…

Maybe Barclays are leaning to the left these days 😂

systemz64
Visitor

So I am not alone - had the exact same thing - I have a perfect score on Experian and have never had any issues elsewhere. No one is explaining why and infact the advisor told me as above to but direct from Apple and get the SIM from ee. I am a broadband customer so already pay them regularly on that - makes zero sense and probably lost a mobile customer