10-05-2022 04:49 PM
I've had my phone (Google Pixel) just under a year and it was in mint condition. I started having an issue whereby my phone would crash, even when I wasn't using it and got stuck in a reboot loop. Eventually, it was so bad it wouldn't stay on for a second without crashing and was totally unusable.
A quick search on the google forum told me this was a common issue!
As my phone is still under warranty, I took it to a store. The process felt too easy - that should've been my first warning sign.
The Assistant Manager struggled to take the case off, even mentioning how robust the case was and then examined all the sides, corners, and glass for any damage. She recorded on the repair receipt that it was in great condition and there were no marking or dents and agreed it was likely a software fault.
She filled out some paperwork and explained that it would be sent off and repaired. I thought, great! Again, too easy.
I followed my phone on the tracking and it took 7 days to arrive at the repair centre.
It then took a further 3 days to go to an engineer.
Today I received an email quoting me £230 as apparently my warranty is void as there is a noticeable crack in the corner casing. I have always had a case on my phone and it has never been dropped - how would it crack underneath a thick case when it hasn't been dropped?!
Somewhere between me handing the phone over, it being packed, going through transit, being handled by whoever accepted it and handed over to an engineer it has been cracked and now EE are trying to pass the blame.
After a million different calls and being passed between various departments, I was told the only way to avoid paying, is to prove that the crack wasn't there. At the time I wasn't sure where the crack was so I shared a video with them that my partner took when my phone was stuck in the reboot loop but naturally not sufficient evidence as I have a case on where the crack now is. At no point in the process was I told to take photos of my device - I also didn't think to as it was in mint condition. The Assistant Manager at the branch who examined and confirmed there were no dents/markings didn't take any photos or ask me if I wanted to. I also sent them on the repair receipt, which they already have which says there are no markings or dents.
A quick search of the EE community shows that this seems to be a recurring issue and I think it's a tactic to get away with having to fix faulty phones so proceed with caution. I have asked if there is an independent agency I can complain to investigate EE's practices as I think this is ridiculous.
I have insurance separately from EE so the easiest thing would be to cut my losses and go down the insurance route but I refuse to pay an excess fee when the fault is with the model and lies with EE/Google.
Please please please if you read this, take photos of your device before you send it off.
29-08-2024 07:03 PM
Hi All,
Wow i am shocked, and equally annoyed having read these comments as I have had identical problem and thought i was going mad as it has felt like EE are wanting to wash their hands of any responsibilities.
Like most of you my issue started off with an intermittent fault in which my screen was flickering, subsequently this led to the front screen turning off, before moving to the inside and then back to the front screen (with the middle screen working fine). In addition to this i have had issues with the camera failing to recognise forward and rear facing (so hazarding a guess to being a glitch somewhere or gremlin).
Since finding out that my insurance wasn’t in place I was led to go through my local store. As the phone started playing up at 6 months old, I knew I was still covered by warranty so trusted this would be an easy fix – no such thing!
Having turned up in store I ran through the issues and explained that when you put it into repair mode that this then sometimes brings the front screen back to life, I also mentioned the mobile had lived in a £65 case from day dot and had not been dropped and was in immaculate condition. I was then asked to remove the case from which he examined the phone before recording on the repair as the mobile having no damage or marks. At the time of signing the mobile over I was told to sign the phone over and didmt need to read this unless I wanted to. Being a bit, OCD I did before asking if I could take some photos as I mentioned I wished to ensure there wouldn’t be any chances of someone trying to pull a fast one by saying this was caused by damage one sent off to the repair department (as although not legally trained was trying to avoid any issues) – Low and behold this is exactly what had happened. Worst still when I asked what findings were there, they said that they hadn’t opened the mobile, as the alleged marks where enough to warrant the damage (what I believe is a closed shop as a. this damage wasn’t there or recorded and b. even if it was they haven’t provided proof that this has caused the issue). THE RESULT OF THIS IS A £750 quote (without even knowing where the fault has come from) . When I then said they had recorded this down as no marks or damage and signed it over they said this wasn’t sufficient, to which I replied if I was to pick up my mobile now how could they ascertain what was or wasn’t on the mobile, as it then had already been moved? Guess what they said they can’t?
Having taken this up with EE I can honestly say I cannot believe a company of this size has got as far as it has, as the procedures in place and training provided to their staff to handle these issues are almost non-existent - as saying I am sorry for the issue doesn’t equate to helping fix the issue. Having already experienced a bad issue with EE customer services via my Broadband services, where no one takes responsibility or ownership for issues caused internally, I thought I may have just been unlucky, however this is clearly a bigger problem as the same issues appear to be happening within my mobile contract, these range from; Promised callbacks not happening, Assurances these issues have happened with other customers and that this can be resolved to just then lack of compassion and eventually a low ball offer, completely going against the policy the phone was damaged?
Since experiencing the problem, I have spoken to the EE Store and the assistant who had helped me agreed that this was an issue and that he agreed with how badly this is handled – to the point he said it wasn’t fair on the customers. Furthermore, he said he wasn’t trained to inspect the mobile to which I have then questioned why they are allowed to record and handle items leaving a loophole of problems and issues. Using a similar analogy you surely wouldn’t hand a rental car to someone who’d inspected the vehicle stating it was all ok, only then to find someone else assesses it and then states its damaged!! Come on EE, this is ridiculous and unfair.
I am now being told by EE that we are in deadlock and that despite all this information we need to go via the omnibus man, despite me saying I feel they haven’t really conducted a fair assessment considering the information provided.
I am prepared to fight this as far as I can but am interested to know how many more people have been fobbed off with these issues, as I hope to flag up these issues to avoid others being pulled into what should be an avoidable situation. Obviously, some of this responsibility should also be shouldered by Google, as EE have said as the manufacturer they dictate some of policies they work too?
In posting this I hope someone high enough within EE will be prepared to reach out to address these issues mentioned. I had been a a customer of Sky for 18 years and consider myself a loyal customer – based on my current experience I will be avoiding EE / BT moving forward and likewise advising others to do the same (or at least be vigilant to these issues.
29-08-2024 08:12 PM
I took it all the way to the ombudsman and ended up paying for a phone I couldn't use, that was 11 months old. I had 2 lines with them, when I paid of the faulty fold I cancelled that line, now waiting for October so I can cancel my other line. Shocking and dishonest behaviour from EE. I'll never get a phone with them again!
P.s ombudsman said they didn't have enough evidence and I could take it to court if I wished.
29-08-2024 09:30 PM
Jamie,
You'll note my experience in this thread (circa mid 2023).
I did indeed refer my case to the ombudsman with all the evidence which included a contract from EE stating my phone was handed to them with "no marks or dents".
The ombudsman ruled that because the courier wouldn't ordinarily see damage like this, and that the person in the EE store was not trained to inspect my phone, there was not sufficient evidence.
My next option was to go to a small claims court, however I gave up. Having been completely let down by the system, I was left with a new phone that was damaged and by admission from the store that handled it, not by me.
All 1st party witnesses, who are all employees of EE, were discounted and discredited. Instead exec management provided the argument from their dislocated office (having never seen the device in person) that the damage must have been caused by me.
So yep, I bottled it with the belief that despite knowing I'm a victim to EE's terrible customer care, I could find myself financially worse off if the small claims court also ruled against me.
Wish I had the money, time, and resolve to have gone through the courts. I still get extremely frustrated about the injustice of all of our situations when someone else stumbles across an identical issue.
Keep us updated.
Oh, ps, EE recognised the terrible customer service and gave me £40 to say sorry. Hilarious, but I took their money (and refused to agree this settled our deadlock, which they did try and get me to do). I also got a letter of apology with intent to provide better training to staff; evidently this hasn't happened.
Good luck.
Ben
30-08-2024 01:32 AM
Hi Carey,
Thankyou for your reply and equally shocked by Ee's approach, so sorry to hear of your experience. I equally feel this is a issue that needs to be addressed and rectified as being left to pay the remainder of a contract with a faulty mobile is so unjust.
Will keep you posted on any developments.
Kr
Jamie
30-08-2024 01:59 AM
Hi Ben,
Thankyou for your reply and again equally shocked by Ee's approach, so sorry to hear of your experience. Whilst I appreciate Ee have to protect themselves against false claims,the issue they are creating appears to be a one size fits all approach, as by handing over a phone to an Ee Store Rep and then signing as no marks or damage implies the phone has been received in that condition - to then rebuke these notes makes me both annoyed and equally concerned as surely they are creating an issue and would be better off taking pictures at the time of the handover.
Like you I don't want to be faced fighting a large entity like Ee in a small claims court, however at the sametime I also feel the injustice of the whole situation, especially when you mention they acknowledge intent to provide better training, as it would appear nothing has changed.
Currently I have asked for my conversation logs to be released and at the very least hope to show the extent of my issue - as whilst the issue of the phone is bad enough, it still doesn't explain Ee's porr customer support by not initially directing my issue or by responding following up issues (something I hope they will have to explain and answer to).
Having been with my last provider 18 years I am not someone who moves companies often but based on the above I am thinking Ee's approach is not of the level I would hope of in line with my own values.
Will keep you posted on any developments.
Kr
Jamie
07-09-2024 05:51 PM
Hello
I know this is an old thread but I am having the same issues with my Google Pixel 8 and the store in Basingstoke.
The phone developed an issue with the screen, which is a common fault with these phones. Gave it to store and they noted it was in good condition and I know there was no dents in the phone since it lives in a case and has done since I bought it with no marks on the case at all.
In addition to what you have said, it took a MONTH for them to send it to the repair center. During this time, no one could tell me where my device was. Only to get a phone call saying that they want to charge me nearly £200 to replace the screen because of a dent. Oh and the dent is on the other side of the phone to where the issue on the screen is.
I have gone through both Basingstoke, the store I dropped the phone off to, and the one they sent it to with both of them saying they won't accept responsibility for the phone being damaged and that they can't help. With even the store manager of Basingstoke saying that I could get it fixed "at one of the stalls around the corner"
This has been the worst customer experience of my life and has left me with a phone I can't use for nearly 2 months now.
08-09-2024 12:50 PM
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Ali
08-09-2024 02:54 PM
I have already done this and been told that no one can help me! This is my whole issue.
08-09-2024 04:07 PM
Hi mate,
Good luck and go well. As detailed countless times, you're in for an uphill battle.
Made worse because EE keep bullying and besting down customers who are forced to risk hundreds of pounds in a small claims court or cut their losses.
EE's behaviour is reprehensible. One thing I forgot to add is reporting them to trading standards with evidence is really important. I did this and they informed me trends will be investigated.
This is a problem with exec management in my experience. The people on the front line were helpful, but useless; but at least sympathetic and demonstrated integrity. Unfortunately they have no authority to make any decision and the exec team only care about the bottom line, not looking after customers.
Why would you when your brand is that big? They don't care, they get away with it and the cycle continues.
Get reporting! Good luck
08-09-2024 05:40 PM
It was gutting as the phone contract was over £100 p/m and I had to go back to my old S10, which luckily I kept!
To be humiliated and told by 6 members of staff that I dropped the phone was horrible 😭
I'm counting down the days until I leave, roll on October 14th!