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    <title>topic Re: Over the top pricing? in Other phones &amp; Devices</title>
    <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Other-phones-Devices/Over-the-top-pricing/m-p/1431566#M24972</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3049540"&gt;@K-cc&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Told me they don't do sim only now, fair enough&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This needs clarifying. EE certainly do sell SIM-only plans, but the retail shops don't sell SIM-free phones.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There may also be confusion with the current "FlexPay" plans that intentionally split the airtime element from the device repayments.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Buying SIM-free &amp;amp; choosing SIM-only has nearly always been cheaper if pure-cost is your motivation. I've got some doubts about the generic "BTU" software compared with EE's "EVR"-specific firmware, but those are technical than cost.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 06 Sep 2024 16:34:43 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>bristolian</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-09-06T16:34:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Over the top pricing?</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Other-phones-Devices/Over-the-top-pricing/m-p/1431555#M24971</link>
      <description>&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi, just checking in with the community here.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm overdue an upgrade so popped into my local shop. I'm on a pixel 4a at the moment (I know, but I'm just not that bothered by an up to date phone), so was looking to stay with Google.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've had this handset for a few years now and got on well with it. Main thing I wanted was a much bigger memory. Think I'm on about 120g at the moment. Was offered Pixel 8a with 256g of memory. Great. Price I was quoted was £42 per month over 3 years. Seemed fine, a little pricey since I'm not a big phone guy, but ok.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Told me they don't do sim only now, fair enough. Then I asked, how much of that monthly fee was the SIM cost. About £32 a month for the SIM.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I clarified this with the guy in store: so that's £32 pm for 3 years? He nodded. The math on that is £1,152 over 3 years ...for a SIM??&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Total price over 3 years £1500.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Same phone next door in John Lewis is about £420.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can you folks tell me if this all seems pretty standard and I'm just out of the loop? That's alot of money when you can buy the handset for a 1/3 the price.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Tempted to find another handset and put the current SIM I have in there instead.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks alot!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 Sep 2024 16:26:14 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>K-cc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-09-06T16:26:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Over the top pricing?</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Other-phones-Devices/Over-the-top-pricing/m-p/1431566#M24972</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3049540"&gt;@K-cc&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Told me they don't do sim only now, fair enough&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This needs clarifying. EE certainly do sell SIM-only plans, but the retail shops don't sell SIM-free phones.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There may also be confusion with the current "FlexPay" plans that intentionally split the airtime element from the device repayments.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Buying SIM-free &amp;amp; choosing SIM-only has nearly always been cheaper if pure-cost is your motivation. I've got some doubts about the generic "BTU" software compared with EE's "EVR"-specific firmware, but those are technical than cost.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 Sep 2024 16:34:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Other-phones-Devices/Over-the-top-pricing/m-p/1431566#M24972</guid>
      <dc:creator>bristolian</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-09-06T16:34:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Over the top pricing?</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Other-phones-Devices/Over-the-top-pricing/m-p/1431608#M24973</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3049540"&gt;@K-cc&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; The air time contract is for 24 months the device contract can be 24 or 36 months. That’s your choice. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;It’s a flex pay contract and the sales guy didn’t explain this very well at all, &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;The prices you are &amp;nbsp;posting are not worked out correctly.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Quick example &amp;nbsp;£30 upfront means a monthly cost of £26.62 per month for a 36 month device contract. &amp;nbsp;The air time contract is priced separately and is 24 months from &amp;nbsp;£30 to £51 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Have a look at&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://ee.co.uk/mobile/pay-monthly-phones-gallery/google-pixel-8-pro-good-as-new-details?color=bay&amp;amp;capacity=256GB&amp;amp;selectedPlanCode=L24SPU03" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;THIS&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And John Lewis are advertising this device at £709. &amp;nbsp;So that’s a real bargain at £420. &amp;nbsp;Provided it is a pixel 8 pro. &amp;nbsp;I doubt it is and its &amp;nbsp;probably the pixel 8.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 Sep 2024 17:31:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Other-phones-Devices/Over-the-top-pricing/m-p/1431608#M24973</guid>
      <dc:creator>Chris_B</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-09-06T17:31:49Z</dc:date>
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