topic Re: Smart Hub Plus only theoretically supports 1.6gbps speeds in Broadband & Landline

Smart Hub Plus only theoretically supports 1.6gbps speeds

Sebrichter — Thu, 23 May 2024 10:50:59 GMT

Maybe I’m confused, but I understand I got the smart hub plus on the back of signing up to the 1.6gbps service from ee. And now that I received the router, I realise, neither the Ethernet port nor the WiFi standard without 6Ghz make it possible to utilise the 1.6gbps speed on any single device. I know this will still help with bandwidth, but couldn’t EE just supply a 6Ghz band router instead?

Re: Smart Hub Plus only theoretically supports 1.6gbps speeds

XRaySpeX — Thu, 23 May 2024 11:03:30 GMT

The Ethernet LAN is limited to 1 Gig but WiFi should be much higher.

Re: Smart Hub Plus only theoretically supports 1.6gbps speeds

JimM11 — Thu, 23 May 2024 11:05:35 GMT

@Sebrichter The router is wi-fi 6 compatible and does support higher speed's, the newer routers are not available yet.

Re: Smart Hub Plus only theoretically supports 1.6gbps speeds

Sebrichter — Thu, 23 May 2024 13:54:55 GMT

My understanding is that the max speed that can be achieved on the 5Ghz band is 1.2gbps. Only 6Ghz covers the full 1.6gbps. It’s just strange to me that using the router supplied is not able to connect with the (expensive) service that I will pay for over 24 months. I can see that generally routers are available that offer a 6Ghz band.

Re: Smart Hub Plus only theoretically supports 1.6gbps speeds

XRaySpeX — Thu, 23 May 2024 14:39:55 GMT

Other users are getting at least 1.6 Gig over WiFi on that router.

Re: Smart Hub Plus only theoretically supports 1.6gbps speeds

JimM11 — Thu, 23 May 2024 14:54:21 GMT

@Sebrichter Sorry to say but you are wrong with your understanding. It is more than possible to get higher, wither it happens is another issue. And who is not to say that 1gb/s over ethernet and 600mb/s on wi-fi happening at the same time. It's not all about the single device, if you need/want high speed then you have to get a real router and hope that there is no other server/contention/fibre backbone slow downs at the same time. EE sell the package, and the router is capable so that is all theoretically possible. If you wish go to wiisfi.com and they have excellent documentation for reading. HTH

Re: Smart Hub Plus only theoretically supports 1.6gbps speeds

Sebrichter — Fri, 24 May 2024 10:21:03 GMT

Everywhere I’m looking it says 5Ghz can only support a max speed of 1300mbps under ideal conditions.

I did acknowledge I understand that it will still expand bandwidth for multiple devices, but my point is, there isn’t a way of utilising the speed of the service on a single device given the limits of the Ethernet port and the 5Ghz band.

I have eero routers that support 6Ghz band. I’m not even planning to use the smart hub plus. But I just found it surprising that the router doesn’t support the service on a single device.

Re: Smart Hub Plus only theoretically supports 1.6gbps speeds

JimM11 — Fri, 24 May 2024 11:27:11 GMT

@Sebrichter Not sure if you went and read the document on reference i sent you, and it is all in theory, so here is the extract for you until you get to read.

UPDATE March 2022: When Wi-Fi 6 CAN deliver the goods: If you have a brand new Wi-Fi 6
client device and a brand new Wi-Fi 6 router and are using both in the same room (and both devices
are very close to each other) there is a high likelihood that the two devices will negotiate an initial 160
MHz channel width (for non-Apple devices only). Throughput can be as high as 80% of the 2401 Mbps
PHY speed (or around 1900 Mbps) -- which is very nice!

device and router are very close to each other (in my testing, four feet away) -- and once you start
adding distance or walls, the two Wi-Fi 6 devices will 'slow down' significantly and communicate with
each other at much closer to Wi-Fi 5 speeds.
Technically, Wi-Fi 5 also supported 160 MHz channels, but it was rare to see a battery
powered client device support 160 MHz channels. For some reason, that appears to have
changed in Wi-Fi 6, where support for 160 MHz channels (even in battery powered client
devices) now appears very common (but not for Apple devices).

Re: Smart Hub Plus only theoretically supports 1.6gbps speeds

JimM11 — Fri, 24 May 2024 17:05:41 GMT

@Sebrichter Here is my Laptop wi-fi and only on wi-fi 5, so will give you an idea, and mobile is normally sitting about 1Gb/s.

SSID: SKY696****
Protocol: Wi-Fi 5 (802.11ac)
Security type: WPA2-Personal
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Description: Intel(R) Wireless-AC 9560 160MHz
Driver version: 22.120.0.3
Network band: 5 GHz
Network channel: 100
Link speed (Receive/Transmit): 1733/1733 (Mbps)
IPv6 address: 2a00:23c8:a461:****::****
2a00:23c8:****:eb00:f7b1:a481:7a73:****
fd78:****:****::112
fd78:****:****:0:710e:61aa:932f:ecad
Link-local IPv6 address: fe80::1d8f:76d9:46fa:****
IPv4 address: 192.168.1.112
IPv4 DNS servers: 192.168.1.254 (Unencrypted)
Physical address (MAC): **-D1-08-55-17-**