topic Re: Using own Router on Fibre Max 900 connection in Broadband & Landline

Using own Router on Fibre Max 900 connection

DaveH22 — Sun, 05 Mar 2023 14:13:55 GMT

I’m another one using their own Router. (Sorry 🙁)

I have a 900Mb/s Full Max installation and have an Asus ET12 Router Installed. It’s setup for PPPoE.

I have been limited to download speeds of c.400Mb/s and, until recently, assumed there was a problem with my connection. Openreach guy turned up and proved a much higher speed with the EE Smart Router (Unopened and never used). 600Mb/s.

I want to use the Asus router for its Mesh capabilities and range. (I need the range for 2 external cameras).

I’ve since read that PPPoE may be restricting my speeds but that’s outside my area of expertise.

Any ideas that might help me achieve the performance I’m hoping for?

Thank you!

Re: Using own Router on Fibre Max 900 connection

Mustrum — Sun, 05 Mar 2023 14:41:40 GMT

@DaveH22 there is no issue using your own router, you do need to use PPOE to authenticate with EE, no idea where you would read it slows things down.

As for speeds, how are you testing and with what equipment?

Re: Using own Router on Fibre Max 900 connection

DaveH22 — Sun, 05 Mar 2023 14:55:47 GMT

Speedtest and a MacBook Pro. Also iPhone 14 Pro.

This is where I first read it. Similar scenario.

https://community.bt.com/t5/Home-setup-Wi-Fi-network/Speed-drop-on-Asus-s-ZenWiFi-AX-XT8-mesh-pair-in-PPPoE-router/td-p/2181793

Re: Using own Router on Fibre Max 900 connection

Mustrum — Sun, 05 Mar 2023 15:04:04 GMT

That article suggests switching off Smart Connect, nothing to do with PPOE.

Are you able to test over an ethernet connection?

Re: Using own Router on Fibre Max 900 connection

DaveH22 — Sun, 05 Mar 2023 15:10:35 GMT

Smart Connect is already off. Have also tested using an Ethernet connection to MacBook. Similar results. EE Smart Hub was significantly faster either way.

Re: Using own Router on Fibre Max 900 connection

XRaySpeX — Sun, 05 Mar 2023 15:19:21 GMT

Try a wired speedtest, using an Ethernet cable supplied with the router, here http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest.html . Click on the "Results Page" button at the bottom of the graph you first see and then copy to here just the "Link to this result:" link that you see below the next main graph.

Re: Using own Router on Fibre Max 900 connection

DaveH22 — Sun, 05 Mar 2023 15:34:39 GMT

Already done that. A Cat7 Ethernet cable plugged directly into USB Hub then into MacBook Pro

Re: Using own Router on Fibre Max 900 connection

DaveH22 — Sun, 05 Mar 2023 15:37:50 GMT

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/1678030525743755355

Re: Using own Router on Fibre Max 900 connection

Mustrum — Sun, 05 Mar 2023 16:14:17 GMT

Already done that. A Cat7 Ethernet cable plugged directly into USB Hub then into MacBook Pro

@DaveH22 Not sure what you mean by this. Did yu mean and the ONT?

Did you use the same ethernet cable between the ONT the routers? There have been examples of people using cables not able to support 1Gbps - either between the ONT and router, or router and laptop/PC.

Re: Using own Router on Fibre Max 900 connection

DaveH22 — Sun, 05 Mar 2023 16:27:51 GMT

I don’t have a cable of lower spec than Cat6.

My connection is :

USB C port on MacBook Pro

To Hub USB C Hub 7 in 1 HOPDAY USB C Adapter, USB C to HDMI Dual Monitor for Macbook Pro/Air,HP,Dell,Surface, Multiport USB C Docking Station (4K HDMI,100W PD,2 USB A 3.0,USB C 3.0,SD/TF Card Reader) https://amzn.eu/d/cuk6H6X

To Ethernet on Router

Same result as Wireless from iPhone

Re: Using own Router on Fibre Max 900 connection

Peter_dtm — Mon, 06 Mar 2023 15:10:48 GMT

Just moved to EE from Vodafone; why do all broadband suppliers give us crippled routers?
I have my own internal network so all smart devices stay connected if the external router goes down or is changed; I supply my own DHCP and DNS (Pi-Hole). To cut out issues with bandwidth; my home automation kit all run on another WiFi router (effectively similar to a wifi extender as it is on the same network).

To get this working with EE I just plugged the WAN port from my internal router to one of the ports on the EE 'Smart Router' allowing EE to run its own DHCP local network and I then use the EE wifi as a 'guest' and work from home network that is totally isolated from my network; effectively this is a "cheat's" DMZ. Using EE's DHCP on my router WAN port I can access any device on the EE network from with in my own network (on different IP address ranges EE uses 192.168.1.0; I use 192.168.122.0)

nearest I can come to a network diagram here - the numbers connect from left to right

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

5GHz Wifi ---(phones/tablets/PC/Games etc)------>1

2.5GHz/5 Ghz WiFi-----(security cameras)------->1 -----> 1 Router ---------> 3 EE "Smart Router" ---- EE Native OND --> Internet

Wired (Pi-Hole; NAS box; Security device etc)--->1

Home Automation devices 2.5Ghz wifi --->2 ----> 2 Wifi Router ----> 1

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Biggest pain is remembering to change to wifi network 2 when adding a smart device.

Running this I have some 20 automation devices; 3 TV streaming boxes; several tablets; phones; PCs & gaming machines. All are living in perfect harmony and allow any combination of devices to run simultaneously!

This also means EE get to look after their interface; and I don't have to worry about them teaching any configuration I have there (previous very bad experience with BT doing upgrades that weren't compatible with the backed up configuration; and Virgin Media who always reset the router as their 1st step in any communication with the support desk).

I would still like to have a proper manual for the very dumb "Smart Router"; preferably one that allows me to go round the horrible user interface; and I still back up the config

Re: Using own Router on Fibre Max 900 connection

XRaySpeX — Tue, 07 Mar 2023 10:46:18 GMT

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FYI: EE's New Smart WiFi Router UI Admin Interface might help!