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    <title>topic Re: New 900mbs broadband poor performance in Broadband &amp; Landline</title>
    <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1168631#M77068</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;No worries old chap, I’m a semi-retired IT professional and today is my day off &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":smiling_face_with_smiling_eyes:"&gt;😊&lt;/span&gt; ….&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Some more info, if it helps&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To check the wireless speed on your windows device … do the same as above,&amp;nbsp; but pull out the ethernet cable first and connect by wifi. Then go back to Change Adaptor Settings and look for the one that says “wifi” – the speed and the connection strength should be listed at the end&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;EM&gt;my MacBook , new this year , doesn’t even have an Ethernet port&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I’ve spent most of my time on Windows and Unix and don’t know much about Mac; but try looking for an app called Network Utility or something similar – it should tell you the same stuff as the Windows equivalent&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;EM&gt; May I ask what kind of speeds you’re achieving on Wi-Fi ?&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Funny you should ask, I tested all my devices yesterday, see below&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="Speed Tests 06092022.jpg" style="width: 716px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/23038i88889FBAC9D63889/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Speed Tests 06092022.jpg" alt="Speed Tests 06092022.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The above wireless figures are from downstairs, less than 20ft from the router. Take the device upstairs, away from the router, and the speeds drop (eg the Victus goes from 500 to about 300). Upload speed is pretty constant wherever you are&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Finally …&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I called EE and they say I can’t possibly expect 900mbs even when wired and that the guarantee of 450 is only for wired devices&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Huh ??? If they that to me I would reply “well, you can’t possibly expect me to pay the full fee, I only guarantee to pay half of that …”&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;take care !&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2022 08:43:14 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>MJMinogue</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2022-09-07T08:43:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>New 900mbs broadband poor performance</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167746#M76983</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":smiling_face_with_smiling_eyes:"&gt;😊&lt;/span&gt; I had the 900/110 broadband package installed today and it’s performing very poorly. The speed varies wildly between 35-380 download and 9-90 upload . One of my devices is connected directly to the router and the best I could get from that was 90/50 .&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I’ve read that this package doesn’t take time to settle so ….. am I stuck with it ? &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":frowning_face:"&gt;☹️&lt;/span&gt; Can anyone help ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Many thanks in advance&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 18:01:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167746#M76983</guid>
      <dc:creator>VWhiteaide</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T18:01:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New 900mbs broadband poor performance</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167754#M76985</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;What are you using to test the speeds?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There have been reports that the router needs to download the latest firmware - how long have you been connected?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 18:16:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167754#M76985</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mustrum</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T18:16:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New 900mbs broadband poor performance</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167760#M76988</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":smiling_face_with_smiling_eyes:"&gt;😊&lt;/span&gt; thanks for your reply . I’ve used various programs to test inc the BT Wholesale and all vary wildly.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have only been connected about 4 hours.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;how do I update the routers firmware ? &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":confused_face:"&gt;😕&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 18:24:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167760#M76988</guid>
      <dc:creator>VWhiteaide</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T18:24:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New 900mbs broadband poor performance</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167761#M76989</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/321568"&gt;@Mustrum&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There have been reports that the router needs to download the latest firmware&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Linky please of such reports?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 18:26:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167761#M76989</guid>
      <dc:creator>XRaySpeX</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T18:26:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New 900mbs broadband poor performance</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167762#M76990</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;OK, but saying various does not help narrow things down.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Router firmware is automatically updated by the network.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Connecting directly to the ONT with a PC/Laptop with a fast network interface and setting up a PPOE session will bypass the router and you should get full speeds.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 18:30:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167762#M76990</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mustrum</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T18:30:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New 900mbs broadband poor performance</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167765#M76991</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Sorry I don’t even know what any of that means in your solution &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":pensive_face:"&gt;😔&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I used broadbandspeedchecker, Speedtest.net , broadband Speedtest.org and bt wholesale&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 19:00:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167765#M76991</guid>
      <dc:creator>VWhiteaide</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T19:00:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New 900mbs broadband poor performance</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167788#M76992</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;On Windows: Along the lines of Settings &amp;gt; Network &amp;amp; Internet &amp;gt; Dial-Up &amp;gt; Set up a new connection &amp;gt; Connect to the Internet &amp;gt; (Set up a new connection anyway) &amp;gt; BB (PPPoE) &amp;amp; then supply your BB Username + pwd &amp;amp; Connect.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 20:12:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167788#M76992</guid>
      <dc:creator>XRaySpeX</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T20:12:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New 900mbs broadband poor performance</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167800#M76993</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":smiling_face_with_smiling_eyes:"&gt;😊&lt;/span&gt; is that a solution that will only work if I’m plugged directly into the ONT box ?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 20:44:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167800#M76993</guid>
      <dc:creator>VWhiteaide</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T20:44:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New 900mbs broadband poor performance</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167804#M76994</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes, as&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/321568"&gt;@Mustrum&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;suggested. I'm only trying to fill in the detail he didn't give for you.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 20:50:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167804#M76994</guid>
      <dc:creator>XRaySpeX</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T20:50:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New 900mbs broadband poor performance</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167815#M76995</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Ahh I thought so &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":smiling_face_with_smiling_eyes:"&gt;😊&lt;/span&gt; thank you &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":smiling_face_with_smiling_eyes:"&gt;😊&lt;/span&gt; how is that a real world solution though if I can only achieve the quoted speeds if plugged directly into the ONT box ? &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":thinking_face:"&gt;🤔&lt;/span&gt; nobody uses devices in that way ?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 21:21:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167815#M76995</guid>
      <dc:creator>VWhiteaide</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T21:21:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New 900mbs broadband poor performance</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167819#M76996</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3053276"&gt;@VWhiteaide&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; no one has said that is a solution - it is just a way to test.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You seem to be very reluctant to say what devices you are testing with, hence we have no idea if they are capable of getting those speeds.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 21:27:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167819#M76996</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mustrum</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T21:27:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New 900mbs broadband poor performance</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167820#M76997</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It's only a workaround &amp;amp; proof of concept for your BB speed.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The only proper solution is to to replace the EE Smart Router with a good generic router.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 21:28:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167820#M76997</guid>
      <dc:creator>XRaySpeX</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T21:28:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New 900mbs broadband poor performance</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167824#M76998</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi . Sorry I thought you meant what websites ( Speedtest.net etc )&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I’m using the following…&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;iphone 13 pro max&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;apple Mac m1 ( 6 months old)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;iPad Air ( 9 months old )&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;dell laptop not sure of specs but 2 years old . The dell is connected with Ethernet, all other devices are using WI-FI&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thank you &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":smiling_face_with_smiling_eyes:"&gt;😊&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 21:33:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167824#M76998</guid>
      <dc:creator>VWhiteaide</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T21:33:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New 900mbs broadband poor performance</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167827#M76999</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Ps. I didn’t realise that the solution you gave was just to test . Do you mean that if I do the test and the speed is ok then it points to the router ?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 21:37:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167827#M76999</guid>
      <dc:creator>VWhiteaide</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T21:37:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New 900mbs broadband poor performance</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167828#M77000</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Ahh I see &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":frowning_face:"&gt;☹️&lt;/span&gt; Why do EE supply these routers if they’re not capable of delivering the stated guaranteed speeds ?&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;i don’t feel I should have to pay for a new router and wouldn’t have a clue how to choose one anyway.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 21:40:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167828#M77000</guid>
      <dc:creator>VWhiteaide</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T21:40:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New 900mbs broadband poor performance</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167831#M77001</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;Cuz they are sourced from their partner ISP, BT Retail, where similar issues are often reported.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;A top-end Asus RT- or a TP-Link will probably do it.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 21:48:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>XRaySpeX</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T21:48:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New 900mbs broadband poor performance</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167832#M77002</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3053276"&gt;@VWhiteaide&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;yes, that is what we meant. Just a test to narrow things down.&amp;nbsp; Also knowing what you are testing with to know if they are capable of those speeds.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The routers are capable of those speeds, but may need a firmware update.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That said, you will never get those speeds on Wi-Fi. Perhaps half the download speed.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If speeds don't improve tomorrow, you could give the Broadband Care Team a call to see if there was any tweaks they could do.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 21:47:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Mustrum</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T21:47:01Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167840#M77003</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I really hope all that’s needed is a firmware update. I understand that my Wi-Fi devices will only achieve half the stated speed and I’d be happy with that . None of the devices are anywhere near though , wired or Wi-Fi .&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Is it true that it doesn’t need time to “settle” ? I fear that’s what EE will say when I call up ….”give it 10 days to settle”&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 21:56:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>VWhiteaide</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T21:56:51Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167842#M77004</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;There's no need for a stabilisation period but I also fear CS may say there is.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 22:01:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167842#M77004</guid>
      <dc:creator>XRaySpeX</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T22:01:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New 900mbs broadband poor performance</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-Landline/New-900mbs-broadband-poor-performance/m-p/1167843#M77005</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The "settle" thing is standard from most ISP front line people, and whilst it is true for ADSL, less so for FTTC/FTTP - that said a day or two for the firmware to update is not unreasonable.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 22:03:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Mustrum</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-05T22:03:16Z</dc:date>
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