topic Smart Router / PS5 - NAT Type 1 in Broadband & Landline

Smart Router / PS5 - NAT Type 1

Minty_Cymru — Sat, 16 Jul 2022 14:10:58 GMT

Hi all

Is it possible to get a NAT type 1 for a PS5 through a Smart Router?

I've

Assigned a static IP for the PS5
Forwarded ports 1935 & 3478 to 3480 (internal & external, TCP/UDP)
Also tried placing PS5 in the DMZ

None of the above works, the PS5 still reports a NAT Type 2.

Thanks

Re: Smart Router / PS5 - NAT Type 1

Christopher_G — Sun, 17 Jul 2022 07:32:29 GMT

Hi @Minty_Cymru

Welcome to the community.

Could you explain a bit about why you're looking to do that? Do you have a problem?

Chris

Re: Smart Router / PS5 - NAT Type 1

Minty_Cymru — Sun, 17 Jul 2022 10:43:53 GMT

Of course

When playing FPS shooter games, ping is king. In a 'shoot off' scenario I often find myself at a disadvantage due to a little latency. It's a battle I've been fighting for years 😂

My ping is quite good (15ms) although still going through a moderate nat (NAT Type 2) which means there is still some room for improvement.

I want to trial it in open nat (type 1) to see if it improves the performance.

Is it even possible to achieve a NAT Type 1 on this router? both of what I've done so far (port forward and DMZ) should give me a NAT type 1.

Re: Smart Router / PS5 - NAT Type 1

Christopher_G — Sun, 17 Jul 2022 11:14:01 GMT

OK thanks, @Minty_Cymru

Mine is defaulted to 'NAT Type 2' as well, and I'm a beast on Warzone. 😉

The only unofficial remedies that I can see from searching online is port forwarding, which you've said you already tried, as well as other things. I haven't read anything to say that changing the NAT type will improve your ping. It seems to be more for match-making and voice chat.

@XRaySpeX - Do you have any thoughts on this?

Chris

Re: Smart Router / PS5 - NAT Type 1

XRaySpeX — Sun, 17 Jul 2022 11:29:01 GMT

Don't understand consoles' NAT Types nor where they dream them up from. Routers don't have NAT Types.

Re: Smart Router / PS5 - NAT Type 1

Minty_Cymru — Sun, 17 Jul 2022 14:37:17 GMT

It's looking like this is in the 'no' category then 😂

I ain't no beast in any game (which is why I'm trying to improve my chances....)

I gave up on CoD when I switched from PS4 to PS5. I'm into BF2042 now, and have always played HC which means fastest gun wins.

Re: Smart Router / PS5 - NAT Type 1

Christopher_G — Sun, 17 Jul 2022 14:42:47 GMT

I may have been exaggerating, @Minty_Cymru.

I've never played Battlefield before. I watched a couple of online streams when the last game came out. It looks a lot of fun. 🙂

Chris

Re: Smart Router / PS5 - NAT Type 1

Ian06 — Sun, 17 Jul 2022 15:17:31 GMT

Hmmm yes NAT types is a strange way to describe this, but apparently that's what MS XBOX and Sony PS do.

What they are really talking about is how the router (or firewall) handles unsolicited incoming connection requests... in gamming, this is for starting up conversations or allowing people to join multiplayer games.

The game apps need to incoming connection requests to be forwarded to the PS or XBOX etc. so the external player can join.

Putting the games console in a DMZ or port forwarding to the console ought to solve the issue, I guess to do this the games console needs to have a static IP - Dependant on the router used and it's capabilities.

Re: Smart Router / PS5 - NAT Type 1

pip11 — Mon, 18 Jul 2022 20:44:06 GMT

There are 3 types of connection offered by Openreach to ISP's

1, Speed , which may not be stable.

2, Speed and stability, which balances the two.

3, Stability, which may sacrifice speed to ensure stability.

Most ISP's choose option 2.

I know a few gamers were switched to option 1 by BT a few years ago by request, but if this is still possible or if EE even do it I don't know.

Re: Smart Router / PS5 - NAT Type 1

Mustrum — Mon, 18 Jul 2022 21:05:06 GMT

@Minty_Cymru there are lots of good pages on the internet explaining NAT types, and the best you will get via any Router is type 2.

This article in PureVPN.com is one of the better ones I have seen.

Changing port types suggested by @pip11 won't make a difference to your NAT type, but

may reduce ping times slightly.

https://www.purevpn.com/blog/nat-types/

Putting your device in the DMZ and having a static IP would only be needed if you wanted to access your device from elsewhere on the internet, but leaves it very open to attack. Even if EE provided static IP's there are better ways to do things these days.

Re: Smart Router / PS5 - NAT Type 1

AndreaBu89 — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 21:10:46 GMT

Sorry Christopher I have EE 5G and like you I had NAT 2 and I was really happy......since a bit my NAT is 3 and there is nothing I can do about it...can you help me?

Should I change APN or what?

Re: Smart Router / PS5 - NAT Type 1

James_B — Thu, 06 Apr 2023 13:38:19 GMT

Hi @AndreaBu89,

Our Technical Support Team will be happy to take a look at this issue if you get in touch.

James

Re: Smart Router / PS5 - NAT Type 1

Whittaker_11 — Sat, 14 Sep 2024 21:34:04 GMT

Im having the same issue did you ever resolve this

Re: Smart Router / PS5 - NAT Type 1

Kotchgunna1 — Fri, 08 Nov 2024 18:57:50 GMT

Hello FPS friend!

I achieved open nat type (nat1) by using a secondary gaming router plugged in via Lan to the EE router and putting the gaming router in the dmZ.

I used the gsming router open nat type function in game mode to automatically port forward to the correct port and it worked.

Every so often I would have to put the gaming router back in the dmz as it would sometimes replace it with another device.

I also had to asign a static ip to the ps5 and the gaming router to make it work.

By doing this, my graphics were improved, my lag was reduced, and it was a massively noticeable difference when in multiplayer games.

I have just upgraded my ee router to the smart hub plus and my usual way of getting open nat type isn't working. I'm yet to figure this out but hopefully I'll have time this weekend to find a solution.

Re: Smart Router / PS5 - NAT Type 1

XRaySpeX — Fri, 08 Nov 2024 22:18:18 GMT

@Kotchgunna1 : What was the EE router you had before with which you successfully did all this?