topic Re: Non EE router in Broadband & Landline

Non EE router

Johanstead — Sun, 26 Oct 2025 20:56:42 GMT

My new ee hub has a DECT signal coming from it regardless of whether there is a phone connected, My aim is to not use my ee hub in order to create a set up which has no DECT signal coming from it. I thought I could do this by buying a TP-Link Archer AX50 AX3000 Dual-Band Gigabit Wi-Fi 6 Wireless Network Router, and if I want to use a phone, to buy an ATA (Analogue telephone adaptor) which I can connect to an ethernet output on the Archer. Now I realise I can't plug the Archer I bought into the broadband. I think it should work if I buy a model which incorporates a modem too, eg tp link ac1200 router Archer Vr400. Does anyone know if this or any other modem+router would do what I want it to? Thanks.

Re: Non EE router

JimM11 — Sun, 26 Oct 2025 20:35:24 GMT

@Johanstead You need to purchase whatever is required for the connection type that you have, that is the most important part, next is your phone connection type will also depend who/what you are getting, once you have gathered all you need then you can make the choice what will work!

Re: Non EE router

Johanstead — Sun, 26 Oct 2025 21:02:03 GMT

Wow, thanks for listening! I've reached the end of my minimal knowledge. How do I know my connection type? How do I know my phone connection type?

Re: Non EE router

JimM11 — Sun, 26 Oct 2025 21:23:59 GMT

@Johanstead Bit off a long read but can you look at this posting just finished today with the OP and all setup. Connection type was to the OR Openreach Master phone socket type 5c, BUT no landline involved, YOU are NOT going to get an EE DV digital voice phone working on anything but an EE supplied router, that's 100% sure fact! VOIP from another supplier that may be ok, but you need to know for sure that they will be supplying an ATA to do so, but that Tp-Link you will see has sip and if it can be made to work with your VOIP provider then that is a question for them!

EE SMART HUB 2 change to third party due to upload lag - The EE Community

Re: Non EE router

Johanstead — Sun, 26 Oct 2025 21:39:19 GMT

Thanks Jim, I had a long conversation with an ee tech chap about all this a few weeks ago. Explained my aim was to run a dect and wifi free system. Currently fibre to cabinet, and eventually fibre to home. It was him who said the Archer AX1800 would be compatible and that plugging a phone into an ATD itself plugged into one of the ethernet ports would work. He evidently didn't realise it didn't act as a modem. Doesn't sound from what you say that the phone thing would be possible either?

Re: Non EE router

XRaySpeX — Sun, 26 Oct 2025 21:51:47 GMT

Do you have partial fibre (FTTC) supplied from a phone socket or Full Fibre (FTTP) supplied from an OR ONT modem box? If the former, yes, you need a DSL modem router like the TP-Link AC1200 Wireless VDSL/ADSL Modem Router. If the latter you can use any router that has a Ethernet WAN.

EDIT: I see you have FTTC, so the TP-Link AC1200 would be for you & you could run the ATA from 1 of its Ethernet ports..

You only need to use the EE supplied router if you have DV from EE or BT. If you want VoIP from some other supplier you connect it from an Ethernet port thro' an ATA.

Re: Non EE router

Johanstead — Sun, 26 Oct 2025 22:09:43 GMT

Hi XRaySpeX, so are you saying that if I use an ATA ( I already bought a Grandstream HT802) I can't just plug my phone into it and use my ee phone service? And now I'm not sure if it is a 2100 or a 1200 I am looking for? Appreciating all this help, but needs translating into even more simple! Thanks!

Re: Non EE router

XRaySpeX — Sun, 26 Oct 2025 22:23:56 GMT

You'd have to check with your VoIP provider. You do have 1?

@Johanstead wrote:
I can't just plug my phone into it and use my ee phone service?

Let's start this phone query afresh. Who is your phone service provider? You can't stick any old phone into any old router with or w/out an ATA w/out having a VoIP provider to route your calls.

If EE is your phone provider you cannot replace the EE supplied router.

Re: Non EE router

Johanstead — Sun, 26 Oct 2025 22:21:51 GMT

Ah! No I don't have a VOIP provider. Told by ee tech chap that I could get a third party router, plug in an ATA and that would do it using my ee broadband/phone line, which as you say is FTTC.

Re: Non EE router

XRaySpeX — Sun, 26 Oct 2025 22:35:31 GMT

You're being told rubbish! To use EE DV you must use the EE supplied router.

What phone do you have?

Re: Non EE router

JimM11 — Sun, 26 Oct 2025 22:42:11 GMT

@Johanstead Going to leave you in the hands of @XRaySpeX regarding what you are trying to do, he is keeping you right, and EE whoever told you what you just need to forget anything you where told it is RUBBISH.

EE give you a router, you plug it in it works, you plug a landline if you have the service from them it works, it's a no brainer.... Anything else you have to do all by yourself, and get it right from the get go, else creek/paddle without etc....

Landline if you have just now becomes a potential nightmare so you treat it very carefully or you can end up losing everything rapid!

Re: Non EE router

Johanstead — Mon, 27 Oct 2025 18:35:06 GMT

Thanks to you both for your help. Have I got all this correct??!

I must use the ee hub if I want to use ee's phone service. I can't turn off the dect signal that continuously comes out of the ee hub. But I can buy a compatible third party modem/router that doesn't have dect capacity. I can then use that most of the time, but if I want to make a call I can swap to the ee hub, ie , turn it on, plug into the DCL socket, wait a few minutes.

I would like to use a TP-Link Archer VR400 AC1200 because it has a wifi on/off button at the back, much easier than going into the address to disable/enable wifi. Would this be compatible when eventually on a full fibre system too? I have a FTTC system at the moment.

Thanks!

Re: Non EE router

XRaySpeX — Mon, 27 Oct 2025 18:42:12 GMT

Please tell me what phone you have & do you have Digital Voice from EE or a traditional analogue landline?

Why are you concerned about the DECT signal emitted from the EE router?

Re: Non EE router

Richardr66 — Mon, 27 Oct 2025 18:57:02 GMT

@Johanstead wrote:
I must use the ee hub if I want to use ee's phone service. I can't turn off the dect signal that continuously comes out of the ee hub. But I can buy a compatible third party modem/router that doesn't have dect capacity. I can then use that most of the time, but if I want to make a call I can swap to the ee hub, ie , turn it on, plug into the DCL socket, wait a few minutes.

Sorry I can't help on the technical side, but the main reason I kept a phone line is to receive calls from people who have my old landline number. From the above, you can't receive calls as you are only plugging in the phone system when you want to make a call.

Given then the actual number appears irrelevant, is it worth looking at other ways of making calls, e.g. many mobile plans include inclusive minutes, or if your mobile doesn't work at your home VOIP or similar?

I accept the above may not be useful if you expect to receive calls that will go to voicemail, but even then you could put a message on it saying it won't be monitored and give an alternative way of contacting you.

Re: Non EE router

JimM11 — Mon, 27 Oct 2025 19:11:43 GMT

@Johanstead Yes Tp-Link will work as either a VDSL Router or an Ethernet Router, config has to be changed to suit the connection type though! If you want Wi-Fi 6 then the Archer VX1800v is the one to go for, it's a far better router either way!

Re: Non EE router

Johanstead — Mon, 27 Oct 2025 21:43:12 GMT

To XRay SpeX. I have digital voice from EE. Analogue until recently when I changed from copper to FTTC, so just digital voice now.

To Richardr66. Thanks, yes, would put an answerphone message on it to that effect, and would mostly use it for long conversations to avoid too much time on my mobile.

To JimM11. Do I want/need Wi-Fi6? Perhaps I do, first I heard of it, this is not as you see my specialist subject! I'm not a gamer, just the usual emails, Facebook, YouTube. Looks like the Archer VX1800v has a socket for an analogue phone. Presumably this is no use to me since I can only use an ee hub to access the ee phone service?

Should I explore a third party VoIP provider in my quest to be dect free?

Not particularly expecting you all to agree with my priorities but nevertheless lots of info out there on the effects of dect, WiFi and other forms of man made radiation. Some of us humans have major physical symptoms directly related to certain types of radiation https://www.es-uk.info/ For a wider and historic view of the effect of electricity on living organisms read "The Invisible Rainbow" by Arthur Firstenberg.

Re: Non EE router

XRaySpeX — Mon, 27 Oct 2025 21:54:10 GMT

I still need to know what model phone you have?

The EE router incorporates a DECT base station which can pair with cordless DECT extensions. If you have your own DECT base station + cordless extensions, you will not be using the base station in the router but your own. So it doesn't matter a jot that the router is emanating a DECT signal. You just plug your base station into the phone port at the back of the router or, if you like, remotely into an EE ATA plugged into a power socket.

Re: Non EE router

Johanstead — Mon, 27 Oct 2025 22:48:01 GMT

I have a wired phone. Also a Gigaset cordless one with a base station. The issue is that the ee router pumps out a dect signal at all times, which I don't want in my environment. I was told by another ee tech person (wrongly I now believe) that the ee phone system went through the house wiring. Some VoIP systems don't use dect technology, I learn from AI. Not sure if this is a path to explore or not. Thanks.

Re: Non EE router

XRaySpeX — Mon, 27 Oct 2025 23:04:18 GMT

So it's just an environmental issue. Not much you can do about that if you want EE DV.

I've got an EE SH+ with the integrated base station, I never use, allegedly pumping out this so-called DECT signal. It doesn't worry me. I have separate DECT base station plugged into a normal phone socket.

Is it really "pumping" it out? How do you know? It's probably quiescent when it has no extension to talk to.

Re: Non EE router

JimM11 — Mon, 27 Oct 2025 23:20:59 GMT

@Johanstead No dect devices used or paired then no dect out, ATA port can be wired out off the EE Router back connection to all existing wiring, making all the home wiring work as before. Your cordless phone is no doubt dect based!