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Hi I'm new to EE and have previously used powerline adapters for a garden room

Trickydicky75 — Thu, 03 Jul 2025 18:49:59 GMT

Hi, I'm new to EE and my tplink av600 powerline adapters won't work in my garden log cabin, they previously did with sky, I think it is possibly because they are wpa2 and my new EE 7 router is wpa3. I don't want to spend on new wpa 3 powerline adapters if they don't work is there any recommendations to what powerline adapters that are wpa3 would work best with ee's new router and TV mini box. Any help much appreciated . Thanks in advance.

Re: Hi I'm new to EE and have previously used powerline adapters for a garden room

Mustrum — Thu, 03 Jul 2025 18:56:33 GMT

@Trickydicky75 do your powerlines connect to the router via an ethernet cable - if so it has nothing to do with wpa3.

If not, have you set up a compatable network on the router to help devices that do not have wpa3?

Re: Hi I'm new to EE and have previously used powerline adapters for a garden room

Northerner — Thu, 03 Jul 2025 19:10:40 GMT

Hi @Trickydicky75

Try resetting the power line adaptors so they sync up again.

Thanks

Re: Hi I'm new to EE and have previously used powerline adapters for a garden room

Trickydicky75 — Thu, 03 Jul 2025 19:16:35 GMT

Hi, I'm new to EE and my tplink av600 powerline adapters won't work in my garden log cabin, they previously did with sky, I think it is possibly because they are wpa2 and my new EE 7 router is wpa3. I don't want to spend on new wpa 3 powerline adapters if they don't work is there any recommendations to what powerline adapters that are wpa3 would work best with ee's new router and TV mini box. Any help much appreciated . Thanks in advance.

Re: Hi I'm new to EE and have previously used powerline adapters for a garden room

JimM11 — Thu, 03 Jul 2025 19:47:14 GMT

@Trickydicky75 Powerline does not work that way, AV600 master connects to the Router Ethernet BUT it may not like that port as it is only 100MB/s NIC interface on it, the other end wireless or wired does not matter they are only max wpa2-psk on that device, NO wireless comms between the Powerline and the Pro wireless!

AV600 worked fine on the EE Smarthub+ no issues, Pro is a little touchy on the Nic Interface allegedly.

Just had to put a new AV1000 on to the Hub as the AV600 died last week, not bad after 6 year's and could not get new AV600 plenty used but stuff that, anyhow took out one off the AV1000 put it on the hub, grabbed the 3 other units and secure power lined the network for them, up and running 5 minutes.

Re: Hi I'm new to EE and have previously used powerline adapters for a garden room

Trickydicky75 — Thu, 03 Jul 2025 19:45:39 GMT

No via the 240v cables to the garden room consumer unit, specifically the cloning of the WiFi, it just won't do it even after resetting everything, and the ethernet from the power line adapter to the TV mini box is sketchy too👍

Re: Hi I'm new to EE and have previously used powerline adapters for a garden room

Trickydicky75 — Thu, 03 Jul 2025 19:46:24 GMT

Tried that to no avail

Re: Hi I'm new to EE and have previously used powerline adapters for a garden room

JimM11 — Thu, 03 Jul 2025 19:56:52 GMT

@Trickydicky75 You did take the units and do them ALL close to the Pro Router, also NO extension cables as the hate those with a vengeance! Once they are paired you can move them about as much as you like. What model are you dealing with mine are the Tp-Link WPA4220 kit, t-kit and the straight now AV1000/AV600 mix TL-PA717 Kit TLPA4010 Kit

Re: Hi I'm new to EE and have previously used powerline adapters for a garden room

Trickydicky75 — Thu, 03 Jul 2025 19:56:29 GMT

It connects to the tv mini box in the garden room from an ethernet from the powerline adapter, this periodically drops connection. No one can connect to the cloned WiFi from the powerline adapter in the garden room, the message you get is access is denied due to router administrator. I've been on the router settings to no avail and have read it's a compatibly issue with av600 being wpa2 and new EE router being wpa3. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree?

Re: Hi I'm new to EE and have previously used powerline adapters for a garden room

JimM11 — Thu, 03 Jul 2025 20:05:59 GMT

@Trickydicky75 Yes semi barking up the wrong tree, but you may just have to get the wireless wi-fi adapter IP address from the pro router and then go set the powerline as you need it, AS before there is NO interaction on the wireless and would not do the wps pairing if it is giving you an issue on the Pro Main wi-fi, easier just to go admin the unit via the web interface software!

say what models you have, may be easier to explain!

Re: Hi I'm new to EE and have previously used powerline adapters for a garden room

Mustrum — Thu, 03 Jul 2025 20:07:32 GMT

@Trickydicky75 yes you are barking up a wrong tree.

There have been reports of problems connecting to the LAN ports on some routers, but using a Gb switch inbetween the router and the first powerline has helped in some cases.

WPA2/3 is a router WiFi issue, but your powerline should have an ethernet connection to the router.

Re: Hi I'm new to EE and have previously used powerline adapters for a garden room

Trickydicky75 — Thu, 03 Jul 2025 20:13:27 GMT

One end of my power line is next to the router and is connected via ethernet?

Re: Hi I'm new to EE and have previously used powerline adapters for a garden room

Trickydicky75 — Sat, 05 Jul 2025 12:26:37 GMT

All sorted now, went into router administrator web settings and set up a compatible network using WPA 2 instead of WPA 3 all devices including my old laptop now connect and the av600 power line adapters now work perfectly and I am able to use them to clone the WiFi, as I did previously with sky.

Re: Hi I'm new to EE and have previously used powerline adapters for a garden room

Mustrum — Sat, 05 Jul 2025 13:03:24 GMT

@Trickydicky75 glad to hear it is working for you now, and thanks for letting us know.

As per my suggestion in the first reply 😎

Re: Hi I'm new to EE and have previously used powerline adapters for a garden room

JimM11 — Sat, 05 Jul 2025 14:19:04 GMT

@Mustrum Some day's just go better than other's, and sometimes it is better to say 😶!

Re: Hi I'm new to EE and have previously used powerline adapters for a garden room

bobpullen — Mon, 07 Jul 2025 07:13:19 GMT

@Trickydicky75 wrote:
It connects to the tv mini box in the garden room from an ethernet from the powerline adapter, this periodically drops connection. No one can connect to the cloned WiFi from the powerline adapter in the garden room, the message you get is access is denied due to router administrator. I've been on the router settings to no avail and have read it's a compatibly issue with av600 being wpa2 and new EE router being wpa3. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree?

You are not barking up the wrong tree.

That message is exactly what I would expect an Android device to do if it supports WPA3 and is instructed to connect to a WiFi network/SSID that it thinks should support WPA3 but is only offering WPA2 as a connection method.

Many newer devices will not like the security mechanism being demoted for a known Wi-Fi network. The symptoms differ but you can expect things like the Administrator message you've quoted on Android, a blunt "Unable to join network" message on iOS, WiFi username/password errors, or oddities where the Wi-Fi connection will seemingly drop unexpectedly after a period time. There can actually be problems going in the other direction too (WPA2 > WPA3) however, that's less common.

To get around the problem, you need to 'forget' and recreate the saved Wi-Fi connection on the affected device, or find a way to 'reset' it's network settings and start from scratch. In your scenario, this won't work though, as you have (had) two competing access points running simultaneously, one with WPA2, and one with WPA3-Personal-Transition. At some point, affected devices would associate with the WPA3 access point and you'd be back to square one again.

I see you've worked around it by using the Compatible WiFi network (which is configured to use WPA2). An alternative would have been to either acquire a Powerline adapter that supports WPA3-Personal-Transition (as you alluded to), or refrain from cloning the SSID on the far end of the Powerline link and configure to use a unique WI-Fi network name instead.

TL:DR: Running two WIFi networks, with the same network name/SSID but different WPA security mechanisms, is a very bad idea and will lead to problems.