topic Re: Draytek Modem in Broadband & Landline

Draytek Modem

cm-mojo — Mon, 17 Mar 2025 10:37:43 GMT

HI - currently don't use my EE Router in the property as I have a Unifi setup, and currently am using a BT Openreach modem for the VDSL service - I'm looking to upgrade this modem to a Draytek V166 or V167, both of which are available on the EE shop, but they do have slightly different specs, the 166 supporting G.Fast and the V167 supporting 35b. is there a way of knowing which makes sense for my service?

Re: Draytek Modem

Timbo45 — Mon, 17 Mar 2025 10:43:38 GMT

@cm-mojo

Why would you want to replace the OR modem?

When FTTP comes along it'll be redundant anyway and the OR modem is a perfectly capable unit.

Re: Draytek Modem

cm-mojo — Mon, 17 Mar 2025 10:46:38 GMT

Getting a lot of High latency issues on the network, Unifi console is suggesting its the modem that's causing the issue. I have had intermittent issues with the OR modem, so thought I'd try swapping it out. Happy for some alternative reasoning?

Re: Draytek Modem

cm-mojo — Mon, 17 Mar 2025 10:52:02 GMT

also, we live in the middle of no where - FTTP feels like a distance dream

Re: Draytek Modem

Timbo45 — Mon, 17 Mar 2025 11:32:09 GMT

I understand the logic.

Options are another OR modem - the Huawei HG612 - easily available on ebay or the Draytek V167 (not the 166) as you don't have G.Fast and never will.

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cm-mojo — Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:22:17 GMT

Yes so the current OR Modem is an HG612 - any views on whether I would benefit from the V167 instead?

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XRaySpeX — Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:25:59 GMT

Either will do. You don't need G.Fast. Get whichever is cheaper.

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Timbo45 — Mon, 17 Mar 2025 16:21:56 GMT

What sort of issues have you had in the past with the modem? And is it definitely the modem or line issues like noise?

Re: Draytek Modem

cm-mojo — Fri, 21 Mar 2025 09:57:29 GMT

just high latency, i'm just assumimng it could be the modem (its very old) how can I validate line noise?

Re: Draytek Modem

Timbo45 — Fri, 21 Mar 2025 10:49:46 GMT

To check line noise call 17070 and option 2, preferably from a corded phone. If there's any noise report a phone line fault not a broadband fault.

I doubt the modem is at fault as if it was there'd be other issues but if you get the 167 from some sources you might be able to return it for a refund if it doesn't solve the problems.

Re: Draytek Modem

cm-mojo — Fri, 21 Mar 2025 11:15:14 GMT

i have a digital line - so my telephone service is provided by a VOIP provider - will that code still work?

Re: Draytek Modem

Timbo45 — Fri, 21 Mar 2025 12:32:29 GMT

I guess not although your telephone/broadband line is still active so plugging a phone into the line might work or at least let you hear any noise if present.

Re: Draytek Modem

cm-mojo — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 07:57:27 GMT

FYI, I put a v167 in, no more latency, had started to see packet loss also, and that seems to have stopped also.

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aXeL_UK — Fri, 11 Apr 2025 05:50:37 GMT

Hi, how are you getting on with the v167? I'm keen to replace my EE router. I'm sick to death of EE remotely buggering about with it. Frequent reboots, frequently dropping the connection for a few mins at a time and then reconnecting. I only use mine as a modem with everything disabled except the firewalls. I was having performance problems recently and I logged in to find WiFi had been turned back on ( WT*?!? ) and now it has Guest WiFi setting I hadn't seen before and that had been turned on as well and was being heavily used by assorted unknown MAC addresses. I need a router that my ISP cannot make changes to without my permission. I shouldn't really be annoyed. I work for a telco and we remotely modify customer's routers as a matter of course.

Obviously wouldn't buy a 167 from EE in case they can remotely modify that too.

Re: Draytek Modem

Timbo45 — Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:46:54 GMT

@aXeL_UK

It all rather depends on what broadband you have.

If you're on Full Fibre then you don't need a modem , just a new router.

If you've got digital voice then the first device connected must be an EE router or BT SmartHub2 - which might be a better option than the EE router anyway.

Re: Draytek Modem

aXeL_UK — Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:50:14 GMT

I use an RJ-11 plug so it's little more than a modem for my purposes. FTTP is a pipe dream where I live. I've never used voice of any description on the line.

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Mustrum — Fri, 11 Apr 2025 20:34:48 GMT

@aXeL_UK the EE routers have had a number of firmware upgrades recently, including additions to WiFi services to help with older WiFi devices. Unfortunatley each time an upgrade is carried out, the router defaults to a factory state, rather than any alterations you may have made.

Lots of ways round the issue without the need to buy a Draytek modem, including an older EE or BT hub, or a PN Hub 2 that you can put into modem mode - all available on your favourite auction or other site for under £20.

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aXeL_UK — Sat, 12 Apr 2025 08:23:28 GMT

That's helpful, good to to know, thank you.

Re: Draytek Modem

SMurphy01 — Sat, 10 May 2025 17:17:47 GMT

I tried a DrayTech Vigor 167 with an ASUS RT-BE88U as I have had a lot of trouble with th EE Smart hub plus, which completely failed and prior to that regularly dropped the Ethernet. I achieved a successful Dsl connection but couldn't get onto the Internet as the 167 could not see the router. My line is SoGEA VDSL and PPPOE with VLAN 101 set correctly in both devices but they would not have any of it. So try the modem but I had no success

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XRaySpeX — Sat, 10 May 2025 17:24:41 GMT

@SMurphy01 : The VLAN=101 need (maybe must) only be set on modem. It's a modem function.