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EE FTTP 1.6g - How can i keep my landline? Pavement a issue? switching from VM

Optilic — Sun, 12 Jan 2025 19:51:30 GMT

Hi everyone!

Landline issue:
im looking to join EE and get the 1.6gb FTTP package, however i need to somehow keep my landline number. what or who can i purchase a service from which will allow me to have both the 1.6gb package and the landline?
ive contemplated the 900mbps package to make it more easier, but i just feel like i should get what i want which is the 1.6gb bundle.

Installation Questions:

Now, my entire front and back of the house is packed with slabs, big and small, there is no grass at all. so would this make a installation much more difficult and possibly not possible? some of the slabs at the front of the door are very small, and would 100% be damaged if they're required to be uplifted.

The area i would put the router is next to a window which covers the entire area, there isnt much wall, unless they digged thru the foundation and put the cable to the fibre box up through the floor.

thank you everyone for any help!

Re: EE FTTP 1.6g - How can i keep my landline? Pavement a issue? switching from VM

JimM11 — Sun, 12 Jan 2025 20:07:29 GMT

@Optilic Who is the landline with just now, and is OR fibre ready in your area? Both checkers below, use the address checker. if you post back obscure any personal details!

Fibre Checker

BT Broadband

Re: EE FTTP 1.6g - How can i keep my landline? Pavement a issue? switching from VM

Mustrum — Sun, 12 Jan 2025 20:25:21 GMT

@Optilic as above, post the results of the BTW DSL checker, hiding your oersonal details, making sure you use the desktop version, not mobile, and include the text at the bottom of the table. This will show if you are able to get a fibre service and how the service will be delivered.

As for the Landline, in any event you will need to change to some form of Digital Voice, but there are many VOIP suppliers who can take your number and deliver your number to a variety of devices or even an App on your mobile. However you may have issues if you plan to use the EE router.

Re: EE FTTP 1.6g - How can i keep my landline? Pavement a issue? switching from VM

Optilic — Sun, 12 Jan 2025 22:31:12 GMT

Virgin Media

second link doesn't work as i have no BT landline in the house.

attached photo is what i got for the first one.

Re: EE FTTP 1.6g - How can i keep my landline? Pavement a issue? switching from VM

Optilic — Sun, 12 Jan 2025 22:33:44 GMT

I can get fibre, as EE and BT have confirmed Full Fibre is available in my area, however they didnt specify how i would get that.
the person who lived next door had bt installed, which was done via a black cable from the phone pole outside. however im unsure if they had fibre or not.

i do not plan on using the EE router, as i have expensive asus one.

regarding VOIP - is there anyone who can provide that to a land line type phone? a phone with a base, wireless, not mobile with touch screen.

Re: EE FTTP 1.6g - How can i keep my landline? Pavement a issue? switching from VM

Mustrum — Sun, 12 Jan 2025 22:39:36 GMT

@Optilic you will need to use the address option on the BTW DSL checker.

Digital Voice services are provided by an ATA ( Analog telephone adapter) so you can plug your old phones into that, it will normally need a ethernet port.

Re: EE FTTP 1.6g - How can i keep my landline? Pavement a issue? switching from VM

Matt_124 — Sun, 12 Jan 2025 22:36:08 GMT

If you go to the second link again and change it to "Address Checker" using the menu at the top you will be able to see some info Openreach have about the property and the potential installation.

Re: EE FTTP 1.6g - How can i keep my landline? Pavement a issue? switching from VM

JimM11 — Sun, 12 Jan 2025 22:54:44 GMT

@Optilic As long as you maintain using your Asus Router, most of the larger VOIP providers will support Ethernet connected to there ATA unit, look at Vonage and the likes to get the basic idea.

Summary of Dedicated Home VoIP Providers for UK Consumers - ISPreview UK

Re: EE FTTP 1.6g - How can i keep my landline? Pavement a issue? switching from VM

JimM11 — Sun, 12 Jan 2025 23:00:01 GMT

@Optilic Click 2nd link, then click top on the Address Checker, Fill in Number, Street, and post code, YOU do not need the telephone.

Re: EE FTTP 1.6g - How can i keep my landline? Pavement a issue? switching from VM

JimM11 — Sun, 12 Jan 2025 23:06:19 GMT

@Optilic If you have a pole, your current copper line is coming off it, and OR have fitted the Fibre to the pole, then it's going to be the same way as it is currently. from Pole to Home, cable spanned, attached to home and run to the OR Outside junction box, if that is how you wish it to be done. Search OR FF install to the Home, what's involved and watch the video.

Re: EE FTTP 1.6g - How can i keep my landline? Pavement a issue? switching from VM

Optilic — Mon, 13 Jan 2025 00:08:47 GMT

Re: EE FTTP 1.6g - How can i keep my landline? Pavement a issue? switching from VM

Optilic — Mon, 13 Jan 2025 00:09:23 GMT

Re: EE FTTP 1.6g - How can i keep my landline? Pavement a issue? switching from VM

Mustrum — Mon, 13 Jan 2025 00:26:16 GMT

@Optilic Your pic will need to be approved before you or others can see them. That said they are very blurry, not sure if anyone else can read them.

But as expected , like your neighbour a feed from the nearest pole is anticipated.

Have a look at A&A or others for VOIP, but be aware of the timing, make sure the new service is up and working before you migrate and/or cancel your previous service.

Edit, pics approved.

Re: EE FTTP 1.6g - How can i keep my landline? Pavement a issue? switching from VM

JimM11 — Mon, 13 Jan 2025 05:14:17 GMT

@Optilic Now you know that you can get fibre and to 1.6Gb/s go look at what an ISP will give you, it's off to see which ISP will offer what to you, and at what speed, same as before NOT every ISP will give you what you want. FROM EE you can forget having DV on and if they do offer you the 1.6Gb/s package, it's just not tied together and working as yet. As @Mustrum pointed out the VOIP and keeping your number is CRITICAL in the timing side, for instance go with EE, your landline goes into oblivion the number is NOT yours to keep, so you have to be very/very careful.

EE is 1Gb/s DV no issue, EE TV no issue, and a waiting game when it all becomes good for BOTH/EITHER, then 1.6Gb/s upgrade path to the all singing all dancing, and using Asus Router DV from EE means YOU HAVE TO USE THERE'S NO CHOICE!!!! Unless you are BB only and taken care of the Landline to some other VOIP provider before it all then you can do what you want.

Use one of the U switch etc to see what is available, ISP wise with speed and obvious that they allow your Asus to be used.

Re: EE FTTP 1.6g - How can i keep my landline? Pavement a issue? switching from VM

jonstatt — Mon, 13 Jan 2025 11:46:18 GMT

Just to clarify something

Right now digital voice is not an option with the 1.6Gbps rate. It is only available on 900 and below.

This was supposed to be resolved in January as well as formalising the 1.6 upgrade for existing customers, but no sign yet.

Source of information: next gen team

Re: EE FTTP 1.6g - How can i keep my landline? Pavement a issue? switching from VM

Optilic — Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:06:01 GMT

just to confirm, if i do choose the 900mbps package, do i NEED to use their router provided for my phone to work? or can they set up a ADSL splicer in my wall socket for my phone alone

Re: EE FTTP 1.6g - How can i keep my landline? Pavement a issue? switching from VM

JimM11 — Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:06:22 GMT

@jonstatt That would be correct, not sure that a timescale was ever applied, then again the Forum would not know it, information would be passed to user's, EE TV is/was also affected in the 1.6Gb/s top tier packages.

If you got it from the next generation team, they are the people who deal with that/those packages and wi-fi 7 product's.

Re: EE FTTP 1.6g - How can i keep my landline? Pavement a issue? switching from VM

JimM11 — Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:23:18 GMT

@Optilic EE DV landline is delivered via the EE Router, so it has to be No1 up front and foremost for the landline to work. Delivery is either pure digital through the inbuilt DECT chipset or out to the ATA port on the back of the EE Router.

Remote DVA (Digital Voice Adapters) work to extend the dect frequency and allow a standard phone to be connected, they have to be able to reach the router but it is all a digital signal in a lower frequency band. (Total 5 phones/adapters) allowed.

Many other way's to convert existing cables and allow phones/extensions to work, that is a separate issue.

Your ADSL/VDSL connection copper to the outside world is dead and buried as far as OR is concerned for ever.

SO EE DV requires EE Router, there is NO way round it. VOIP to someone else do what you want they take care of the landline voice, but they do have to do it through an adapter of some sort's.

Re: EE FTTP 1.6g - How can i keep my landline? Pavement a issue? switching from VM

JimM11 — Mon, 13 Jan 2025 13:11:13 GMT

@OptilicSorry did not see who has you landline currently with response. just looked again VM have the number, was it a BT number once and transferred to VM or is it always been a VM number owned by them?

Getting the posting mixed up another VM user asking similar but say's got dedicated fibre from VM.