topic Re: Hub compatibility in Broadband & Landline

Hub compatibility

popmaster109 — Wed, 08 Jan 2025 23:18:58 GMT

Hello I've recently joined EE broadband with the fiber 67 essential package is it possible to upgrade to EE's hub pro to get better wifi signal and take advantage of the pro hubs wfi 6e and 7 signal?

Re: Hub compatibility

JimM11 — Wed, 08 Jan 2025 23:57:26 GMT

@popmaster109 You are able to get the EE wi-fi 7 package addon, but it is only offered on select FF packages! The Essential fiber 67 that you have, looks like to be a fttc product so it would not be possible to have it. The EE Wi-Fi pro does NOT support a VDSL modem interface and cannot be connected to an OR Master socket arrangement.

Re: Hub compatibility

XRaySpeX — Thu, 09 Jan 2025 01:08:29 GMT

No, EE's Essential Fibre 67 is FTTC VDSL2 & so is not compatible with the SH Pro w/out a separate VDSL modem.

Re: Hub compatibility

popmaster109 — Thu, 09 Jan 2025 11:33:14 GMT

Hi jim many thanks for your quick reply and the information you have given me would it be possible to put the SHP into bridge mode? And purchase a 3rd party mesh system OR

Is it possible to purchase a 3rd party router and connect it to the EE SHP disable the SHP wi-fi and use the 3rd party router?

OR is there any equipment you can recommend to connect any mesh devices to the SHP? Or Those mains plug in wfi extension devices that have 1 or 2 ethernet ports so I could ethernet wire say my amazon FireCube to the EE SHP router?

Many thanks Nick

Re: Hub compatibility

popmaster109 — Thu, 09 Jan 2025 11:34:28 GMT

many thanks for your quick reply and the information you have given me would it be possible to put the SHP into bridge mode? And purchase a 3rd party mesh system OR

Is it possible to purchase a 3rd party router and connect it to the EE SHP disable the SHP wi-fi and use the 3rd party router?

Re: Hub compatibility

XRaySpeX — Thu, 09 Jan 2025 11:43:29 GMT

No, the SH+ cannot be put in bridge mode.
Yes, you may connect another router to the SH+ & disable the WiFi on the SH+.
If you have DV you cannot replace the SH+.

Re: Hub compatibility

JimM11 — Thu, 09 Jan 2025 12:55:54 GMT

@popmaster109 If you are still setting the bar at wi-fi 7 mesh, as long as you can connect the primary mesh router to the EE router assuming that is what you have by an Ethernet then go that way, it will be expensive to do and only if you are looking at increasing the internal network speed up, the slowness of the fttc connection is your main issue, if i was you would drop the expectation down to wi-fi 6 mesh, and you will find way more favourable pricing for sure. You have to make the choice, if you wish to have guidance with what to look at then post back.

Re: Hub compatibility

popmaster109 — Thu, 09 Jan 2025 23:46:58 GMT

Hi Jim, Once again many thanks for your quick reply and the information you have provided me with, I see and understand that it's my fttc (ADSL) speed (max 74mbps) that's the issue so yes please any advice you can give me to maximise my internal wifi speed signal strength would be very useful indeed, ATM with talktalk I'm using a Tp-link AV1300 Gigabit Passthrough Powerline Extender and then ethernet cable to my amazon FireCube Gen3, is this the type of thing you're talking about? Any advice on how I can maximise my internal wifi speed would be very gratefully appreciated

Re: Hub compatibility

popmaster109 — Thu, 09 Jan 2025 23:49:44 GMT

Hello, many thanks for your quick reply and the information you have provided me with, Once again many thanks for your quick reply and the information you have provided me with, I see and understand that it's my fttc (ADSL) speed (max 74mbps) that's the issue so yes please any advice you can give me to maximise my internal wifi speed signal strength would be very useful indeed, ATM with talktalk I'm using a Tp-link AV1300 Gigabit Passthrough Powerline Extender and then ethernet cable to my amazon FireCube Gen3, is this the type of thing you're talking about? Any advice on how I can maximise my internal wifi speed would be very gratefully appreciated

Re: Hub compatibility

XRaySpeX — Fri, 10 Jan 2025 00:32:12 GMT

Sorry, what is your issue? If it's just that you can't have the SH Pro as per your OP, it not your BB speed that is the issue but that you're on FTTC. What EE router do you have (read its label or post a pix)?

Re: Hub compatibility

JimM11 — Fri, 10 Jan 2025 00:17:57 GMT

@popmaster109 Would be better to know what your Tp-Link model is as they do Ethernet only and Ethernet/Wireless combined version, but any way pretty sure you will have no problem with it, use both version's of the AV600 as do not need the speed, and work's fine with the EE Smarthub+ router. If the Wi-Fi version then you are part way there for coverage, and assume you are doing this as the Fire Cube is no were near the router for a direct Ethernet cable.

If you are happy with this and you are finding that the Powerline is working out good, more of the same wi-fi units can be used to extend further your wireless signal multiples of the same model are fine. Will see what when you post the model so i have better idea.

Re: Hub compatibility

popmaster109 — Sat, 11 Jan 2025 10:01:10 GMT

Hello Jim, please see below the model number for my TP-Link product

(TP-LINK AV1300 Gigabit Passthrough Powerline Extender)

Yes your spot on Jim the amazon FireCube Gen3 is at the furthest part of my apartment from the router in the hallway where the BT master socket is located

Could you please advise me if this set up will it provided me with the best optimal wi-fi speeds and signal strength to the amazon FireCube Gen3 and other devices? OR is their any better Powerline Extenders to purchase?

IE : (devolo Magic 2-2400)?

OR would a wi-fi 6 mesh system make any significant difference to my wi-fi speeds and signal strength?

And if it would can you please suggest what wi-fi 6 mesh system kit you would recommend me to purchase,

Many thanks Jim for all your help and support regarding this issue

Nick

Re: Hub compatibility

popmaster109 — Sat, 11 Jan 2025 10:08:18 GMT

Hello Xray,

Many thanks for your quick reply and the information you have provided me with,

I have EE'S part fiber 67 package ADSL broadband connection,

The EE smart hub plus SH31B router and a amazon FireCube Gen3 at the furthest point from the router which is located in the hallway next to the BT master socket is also have a sony xr-65a80l tv and a amazon firestick 4k to connect to the router the sony xr-65a80l and the amazon FireCube Gen3 are in the same room the firestick 4k in in 1 of the bedrooms and my Hi-Fi streaming component in the 2nd bedroom

Re: Hub compatibility

JimM11 — Sat, 11 Jan 2025 10:08:46 GMT

@popmaster109 TL-WPA or TL-PA and numbers after both, your general description is off no use what so ever.

Re: Hub compatibility

popmaster109 — Sat, 11 Jan 2025 10:28:00 GMT

OK Jim once again many thanks for your quick reply and the information you have provided me I'm relatively new to this tech products not all of us are as knowledgeable as your good self and if you had mentioned that you required the TL WA number in the 1st place i would have provided you with them so I now hope

This information is helpful for you TL-WPA8631P

Many thanks Nick

Re: Hub compatibility

JimM11 — Sat, 11 Jan 2025 10:58:05 GMT

@popmaster109 With a router, and a TL-WPA8631P would have thought that your wi-fi would cover your home pretty good. If you are finding that SPEED is the problem then it may be down to Powerline, but if it is not that and wireless is weak in one area, another TL-WPA8631P unit will cover that. Copy of the Tp-Link info page so you can look.

As you are already a Tp-Link user, and if you find and are happy with there equipment, then look at the Deco X50 range, wireless about your property can be fraught with problems, but the units will match your EE Router when you do get round to that.

TL-WPA8631P | AV1300 Gigabit Passthrough Powerline ac Wi-Fi Extender | TP-Link United Kingdom

Re: Hub compatibility

popmaster109 — Mon, 13 Jan 2025 05:35:06 GMT

Hi Jim, many thanks for your help and support regarding this issue it's very much appreciated 👏, TBH I'm ok with the TP-LINK TL-WPA8631P but the speed to the FireCube Gen3 is about 25mbps and I do get buffering occasionally and especially with 4K movies and sports so was wondering and hoping you or someone here may be able to suggest some alternative devices for optimal wi--fi speeds and signal strength so what would you suggest would be the very best way I could fully optimise my internal wifi, I do realise that I'm starting with a max 74mbps which is the best speed I could hope for with a FFTC broadband connection,

So would another Powerline Extender say the (devolo Magic 2-2400) would this be any better than the TP-LINK?

Or would a wifi 6 mesh system like the Deco X50 be better than the TP-LINK

Or would getting a completely different router to the EE SH+ be a better option? Can I completely replace the EE SH+ with a 3rd party router? And if so what would you recommend or if required to use in tandem with the EE SH+

I would very much appreciated any suggestions you could please provide me with

Many thanks Nick

Re: Hub compatibility

popmaster109 — Mon, 13 Jan 2025 05:40:45 GMT

TP-Link Deco X55 AX3000 Whole Home AI-Driven

Or TP-Link Deco PX50 AX3000 + G1500

ASUS RT-BE58U WiFi 7 AiMesh Extendable Router

Re: Hub compatibility

popmaster109 — Mon, 13 Jan 2025 05:49:00 GMT

Hi Jim sorry to bother you but can I put the EE SH+ into modem mode so I can use the Deco X55 mesh system?

Re: Hub compatibility

JimM11 — Mon, 13 Jan 2025 05:49:10 GMT

@popmaster109 As an Asus user myself, then you want to go that way fine, you still have to use the EE Router to connect onto your fttc OR Master socket, the problem with powerline is that signal has to run through all of the electric home wiring, they promise the earth, but cannot deliver on that promise.

Wireless with router's then you can only try and see how it goes, and with Asus the RP-AX58 is available as a AI mesh add on should you need to boost the wireless about.