topic EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50 in Broadband & Landline

EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

eeforlife — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 12:07:10 GMT

Hi all, have an essential fibre 36 broadband connection with EE using the old style adsl line. I don't have a phone connection.

I want to use the netgear orbi rbr50 and two rbs50 satellites with the ee smart hub sh31b so I get wifi signal throughout the house.

Can someone please give me a dummies/simple guide on how to do this please?! Thanks

Re: EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

XRaySpeX — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 12:19:02 GMT

You should be able to do w/out the EE SH+ router & connect the Netgear instead, using its yellow BB port.

You'll need to set EE's BB PPPoE Username & pwd which are the same as BT's in the Netgear's WAN Settings. In Using & Configuring a Third Party Router you'll find everything you need to set up your own router.

Re: EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

eeforlife — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 12:32:02 GMT

I don't think thats possible because the internet cable comes through the old style adsl connection so theres no port on the netgear rbr50 router for it to go into, see the pic of how the cable goes into the broadband socket on the ee router. Also please see the picture of the orbi router that doesn't have an adsl port for this type of connection. Thanks

Any other suggestions please?

Re: EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

XRaySpeX — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 12:41:06 GMT

You're right. It was hard to read. The Yellow port is an Internet WAN port, not a "Broadband" port as I thought it said.

In which case you will need to connect that to a yellow LAN port of the SH+ with an Ethernet cable. Forget what I said about EE's BB PPPoE Username & pwd.

Re: EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

eeforlife — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 12:42:51 GMT

But won't i need to make the ee hub modem only and apparently thats not possible?

Re: EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

XRaySpeX — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 12:46:32 GMT

It's not necessary for it to work. Anyway the SH+ can't be made modem-only.. If you like you could disable WiFi on the SH+ & rely on the Netgear for all WiFi.

Re: EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

eeforlife — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 12:48:29 GMT

Whats the steps to disable wifi on the sh31b please? What settings do i need to do on a factory reset rbr50?

Re: EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

eeforlife — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 12:59:39 GMT

@Mustrum i saw your comments on similar posts would greatly appreciate your input and help on this.

Not overly familiar with all terms or overly technical so a step by step guide for changing settings etc would he appreciated a lot. Thanks in advance

Re: EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

XRaySpeX — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 12:59:57 GMT

Login to your EE Smart Hub/Router at http://192.168.1.254 with the admin password on the bottom of the slider label on the back of the router. Then on the Advanced > Advanced Wireless page you should be able to set Wireless to OFF.

Re: EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

Mustrum — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 13:17:52 GMT

@eeforlife to use the Orbi with the EE Hub, you just need to connect a LAN cable between a Lan port of the EE Hub, and the WAN port of the first Orbi, then set the Orbi as an Access Point as described on the Netgear website. https://www.netgear.com/support/product/rbr50/#configurationassistance_commontopics

Switch off the WiFi as per @XRaySpeX post.

However, to take advantage of the Orbi's Router features you need to connect it via a modem, and there are not too many available these days. But if you go to a well known online auction website, Plusnets version of the EE and/or BT Hub can be switched to modem only mode. You need the later Plusnet Hub2. It can then just replace your EE Hub, and you change the Orbi to Router mode, and enter the PPOE details already posted, no need for the VLAN as the modem does that for you.

HTH

Re: EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

eeforlife — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 14:34:58 GMT

Thanks for the reply, appreciated,i connected from the ee lan to orbi lan port,managed to disable WiFi on ee hub and change orbi to access point mode and it works. I also added a sattelite on another floor and works fine (didn't connect into the wan port as per picture, but if i should please advise?)

Whats the main advantages of using the orbi rbr50 as a router over the ee one please? I saw on that site the modems aren't much so if theres much better advantages would like to utilise them. House is basement (where btline modem/router is) ground n 1st floor. Thanks

Re: EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

Mustrum — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 14:46:01 GMT

@eeforlife thanks for the update, but you should use the internet port (WAN) on the first Orbi. Think that WAN is an input, LAN is an output.

As for router mode, I believe you can't use the Orbi app in AP mode, there will no doubt be other features and protection not available in AP mode. It is much neater when it comes to fault finding to let the Orbi manage all of the network, whereas currently the EE router is dong most of the work still.

Re: EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

eeforlife — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 14:55:59 GMT

As its all working should i leave it or switch that cable from ee box into the orbi wan port? All seems fine so far thats why i ask.

Thank you

Re: EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

XRaySpeX — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 15:00:49 GMT

Yes, you should plug the cable into the Orbi's yellow Internet WAN port.

Re: EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

eeforlife — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 15:16:20 GMT

done thanks

Re: EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

Mustrum — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 15:18:58 GMT

@eeforlife wrote:

As its all working should i leave it or switch that cable from ee box into the orbi wan port? All seems fine so far thats why i ask.

Thank you

Yes you should switch it, although it is working now, there will be something not working properly that you will find out about in the future. It could be when you plug another device into a LAN port, or some other thing, then you will be left head scratching, so best to put it right now.

Re: EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

XRaySpeX — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 17:20:11 GMT

Yes, that's the correct wiring.

Re: EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

eeforlife — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:28:36 GMT

Hi, so i switched it but my sattelites won't sync to the rbr50 orbi router! I reset them a few times and tried syncing again but keep getting a solid magenta light on them. I'm confident it was working before i put the lan cable from the ee hub into the yellow Internet socket on the prbi router(set as access point). I can use wifi from the router but sattelites won't sync anymore.. Any advice why?

Re: EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

eeforlife — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:37:14 GMT

Is this what i need.. Plusnet 2 modem router

thanks

Re: EE SMART HUB sh31b with netgear orbi rbr50

Mustrum — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 20:01:58 GMT

@eeforlife yes that looks like it.

What should I do if my Orbi router can’t find my Orbi satellite?

If your Orbi satellite's ring lights solid magenta or pulses magenta, move the Orbi router closer to your Orbi satellite. If the Orbi satellite's ring LED is still pulsing magenta after about one minute, and you