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Broadband Speed

F0ssil — Wed, 16 Oct 2024 14:38:18 GMT

I have the Full Fibre 150 service where I am guaranteed at least 100mbps. I am not getting those speeds (getting high 80s) I do use TPLINK devices that use the household network loom to use an Ethernet connection which I think are the cause as I have connected direct to the hub using a 10m ethernet and get the 150mbps

I wondered if the broadband filters as mentioned on the start up page here https://ee.co.uk/help/broadband/getting-started/set-up-guide will give me the higher speeds. Also do EE/BT sell these or recommend any particular brand/model. I am struggling to get through to a human that can advise me

Re: Broadband Speed

Chris_B — Wed, 16 Oct 2024 14:49:32 GMT

@F0ssil if you’re using powerlines you will always have a reduced network speed. That’s the nature of these regardless of whatever one you go with. Your home wiring wasn’t designed to have a network connection through it even if it does work.

Re: Broadband Speed

F0ssil — Wed, 16 Oct 2024 15:13:28 GMT

Hi Chris, So would the broadband filters be better? and if so which are the best ones to go for.

The powerlines i have now are old and only viable up to 100mbps it would seem, ive seen AV600 (specifically the TL-WPA4221KIT) which is good for up to 600mbps, so would i get the 150mbps even with downgraded speeds that the powerlines offer?

Re: Broadband Speed

Mustrum — Wed, 16 Oct 2024 15:39:41 GMT

@F0ssil the filters are used in the older DSL broadband lines to keep the higher frequencies used in DSL broadband away from the phone signal - nothing to do with Full Fibre that you say you are on.

No way of telling if better powerlines will give you better speed until you try them, It all depends on your internal mains wiring and the distance between the router and end device - but at least you stand a chance,

That said what spec ethernet cable did you use? Anything better than Cat5c should give better than 150Mbps. And decent ethernet should be better than powerlines as ethernet is designed to carry data at high speed.

Re: Broadband Speed

F0ssil — Wed, 16 Oct 2024 15:55:13 GMT

hi Mustrum, I think it is a regular Cat5 cable, I may have a Cat 6 at work but if i did not sure if id have the length (prob need 5 or 6m. I ended up ordering theTL-WPA4221 KIT online this will be here tomorrow. I am hopeful as I get 86mbps from old TL-PA4010P which are only rated to 100mbps. The 4221 is rated to 600 so with downgraded performance if be happy with 150 :). ill post back here to give the results when they arrives sometime tomorrow

Re: Broadband Speed

Mustrum — Wed, 16 Oct 2024 15:50:27 GMT

@F0ssil Cat5 is only rated at 100Mbps, so you did well to get a bit more.

Do try a Cat6 when you get a chance, then you can decide if any extra speed and reduced latency works better for you.

Byt yes, please do let us know how you get on tomorrow.

Re: Broadband Speed

F0ssil — Wed, 16 Oct 2024 16:42:11 GMT

I never actually knew that, looking at the cable it is Cat 5E which i read is rated to 1gbps

Re: Broadband Speed

F0ssil — Thu, 17 Oct 2024 14:45:58 GMT

Hi All,

The new powerline WPA4221 did NOT provide extra performance, I got a max 91mbps download from them, I went onto TP-Link support and they replied with the below which indicates you wont get a percentgae of the powerline rate, but you will get a percentgae of what you service is. So i am getting baout 60% of my 150mbps (which is what my old powerlines game me.

Ill be returning the new ones and finding a way to hardwire my connection directly

since the powerline adapters connection runs thorugh the electrical circuit, it depends on the electrical line for the connection, you can only get 40-60% of the speed. So its a normal speed you are getting. I do apologize for the trouble

Re: Broadband Speed

Mustrum — Thu, 17 Oct 2024 15:20:02 GMT

@F0ssil thanks for the update. At least now you know, even if it is not the result you had hoped for.

Re: Broadband Speed

JimM11 — Thu, 17 Oct 2024 17:56:08 GMT

@F0ssil The TL-WPA4220 KIT has a 100Mb/s ethernet standard port, so you wont get anything more, it is a smoke an mirrors with the advice of the AV600. Never heard of the 4221, is that just a typo, Its a wireless N wifi 4 device, Use two of those myself, so can assure you that is the speed.

Re: Broadband Speed

F0ssil — Thu, 17 Oct 2024 18:19:22 GMT

Hi Jim, the 4220 and 4221 can be found here - https://www.tp-link.com/uk/home-networking/powerline/?filterby=5800

Ill admit I am confused though, the spec says up to 600mbps but under ethernet it does say 10/100 mbps, perhaps i need to look at the PGW2440 but that is significantly more expensive, I may as well drill a hole in the wall and try to trail the ethernet as neatly as possible 🙂

EDIT

or the TL-PA7017P looks like it may do the job.

Re: Broadband Speed

JimM11 — Thu, 17 Oct 2024 18:27:49 GMT

@F0ssil Your spot on with the numbers, must be tp-link slight change, never the less, they are still 100Mb/s ethernet ports, if you do put a cable though, you will loose the wireless capability that the wpa kit gives.

Cable is always better, full duplex which powerline is not, no matter what they say, has a function and speed is not one of them....

Re: Broadband Speed

F0ssil — Thu, 17 Oct 2024 18:38:16 GMT

The wifi signal is pretty strong from the hub as is, ive no real interest in that, my main PC needs a hardwired connection so this is what that is for, do you think that the 7027 model would provide that, the service is Full Fibre 150, up to 150mbps, guaranteed 100mbps, the 7027 state gibabit - https://www.tp-link.com/uk/home-networking/powerline/tl-pa7027p-kit/

Re: Broadband Speed

JimM11 — Thu, 17 Oct 2024 18:41:05 GMT

@F0ssil There is no guarantee with powerline, but you should be able to get there, there is cheaper Tp that will do the similar, TL-WPA8631P KIT, but not sure of pricing, just look to make sure that there is a gigabyte ethernet port to get up above the 100.

Re: Broadband Speed

F0ssil — Thu, 17 Oct 2024 18:56:56 GMT

the 8631 is about £90 the 7027 about £60, ill wait till me refund goes through and then try it and see what happens.

Re: Broadband Speed

JimM11 — Thu, 17 Oct 2024 19:36:24 GMT

@F0ssil If you only need Ethernet and don't require the extra socket then TP-LINK TL-PA7017 about £40 would do.

Re: Broadband Speed

F0ssil — Thu, 17 Oct 2024 19:45:01 GMT

nods, saw that, id go for the 7027 as i need 2 ports at the comp end (one for PC andother for work laptop) but yeah same thing really. thanks for the replies

Re: Broadband Speed

F0ssil — Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:35:38 GMT

an confirm that the PA7017P over gigabit does give me 145mbps

I went with that as the older ones still work at the slower speed and that is sufficient for my work laptop when i work from home

Re: Broadband Speed

Mustrum — Mon, 21 Oct 2024 14:09:42 GMT

@F0ssil thanks for coming back and updating the thread. Always good to hear success stories, even if your wallet/purse may have a bit dented!

Re: Broadband Speed

JimM11 — Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:34:53 GMT

@F0ssil Glad it sorted out your problem, also note that the other 2 older units work and are compatible with your new as they support the AV/AV2 standard, so the 2 old units can be paired to the master at the router so you now have a couple of single ethernet points should you need them, also note sometimes the master node can get a little confused when mixed mode but its one of those try and see and you will not know until its tried. TP do make a really good product.👍👍