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Connection PC Wifi or LAN ?

Profile closed — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:36:23 GMT

New PC will have WiFi 6E that will give me up to 5.4G/bs

I know that the EE hub is not going to give me that .... it quotes 1.6GB/s, for WiFi is there a specific setting I need to apply to get this ? ..... PC is only 3m away.

Alternatively, I could put in a new ethernet cable and use the 1 GB LAN port, but would prefer WiFi (no cable) if it will match ethernet cable.

Appreciate it will all be throttled by 800GB service anyway,

Re: Connection PC Wifi or LAN ?

XRaySpeX — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:40:54 GMT

The EE SH+ router only has 1 Gig LAN ports. You will only get anywhere near 1.6 Gig by using the WiFi connection from your PC

Re: Connection PC Wifi or LAN ?

JimM11 — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:45:06 GMT

@Profile closed There is nothing specific you need to set in the EE router if that is what you have. Ethernet is better if you intend gaming in any format what so ever. If you get 800GB this is an typo error, PC wi-fi speed should be fairly well up there if newer style computer, but WAY to many variables until you test....

Re: Connection PC Wifi or LAN ?

Profile closed — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 15:14:18 GMT

Was a typo .. should of course be 800Mb/s

I only get 650 Mb/s when I test, even though I buy the 900 service

I'll test the WiFi .. if it's not high enough I'll run in a new Cat6e cable in

Re: Connection PC Wifi or LAN ?

XRaySpeX — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 15:21:35 GMT

I thought you said in your OP that you had the 1,6 Gig plan. What quoted "1.6GB/s"?

If you only have the 800 Meg plan you'll be able to get that from Ethernet.

Re: Connection PC Wifi or LAN ?

Profile closed — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 15:38:06 GMT

I have the BT 900 Mb/s ful fibre service, in the first line I explained that my PC has WiFi 6E, in the 2nd line I was quoting the EE WiFi speed of 1.6g Gb/s .... apologies if that was unclear.

I just have CAT 5 cable currently and that is only rated to max of 100Mb/s and in reality a lot less due to crosstalk.

This was my Q whether the 1.6Gb/s WiFi will be a better connection to the hub ?

If you think WiFi is not good, I will put in Cat6e (or CAT 6) which is good for 10 000 Mbps, and then would use the 2.5Gb/s LAN port on my PC., appreciate max speed on Router LAN port is only 1Gb/s

Re: Connection PC Wifi or LAN ?

XRaySpeX — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 15:42:50 GMT

You can't get 1.6 Gig over WiFi if you're on a 900 Meg plan. Anyway EE WiFi isn't any particular speed. It depends on your BB speed & your devices' capabilities.

Re: Connection PC Wifi or LAN ?

XRaySpeX — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 15:55:25 GMT

I dunno what you are on about with all this "1.6g Gb/s WiFi". You just don't have 1.6 Gig WiFi! Only with EE's Busiest Home 1.6 Gig Plan can you possibly attain 1.6 Gig over WiFi.

Re: Connection PC Wifi or LAN ?

JimM11 — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 16:03:51 GMT

@Profile closed Cat 5 will easily do 1Gb/s, it may not do it over 100M, but you are NO way near that distance.

Your WIFI 6E was ignored, there is not any EE router that has this spec, your device falls back to suit.

Don't think there is any published data, that the EE router is quoted at 1.6Gb/s wifi, it can possibly achieve this and ONLY with ideal conditions, and i would really not rely on an ISP supplied router.

And 650mb/s on a wi-fi signal is not bad, you need to forget that you will not get 900mb/s every time you try.

And if you did not see it, heed the gaming warning given above. Here to help and advise if you wish to take it.👍

Re: Connection PC Wifi or LAN ?

Mustrum — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 17:05:57 GMT

There seems to be lots of confusion on this thread.

1. The BT 900Mbps service comes with q WiFi 5 router, the max Wifi speed you could get is a bit over 600Mbps, more realistically 450Mbps.

2. Cat5 cables are ok up to 100Mbps, for 1Gb you need Cat5e or better.

3. The latest EE Hub has WiFi6 amongst other things, hence is capable of speeds towards 1.6Gb with devices with WiF6 or better, but only 1Gb over ethernet .

HTH

Re: Connection PC Wifi or LAN ?

XRaySpeX — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 17:40:20 GMT

OIC! Just seen you've just added that you are on the BT 900 Meg plan. Well, you won't get 1.6 Meg WiFi from your BT router anyway.

Re: Connection PC Wifi or LAN ?

JimM11 — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 19:23:42 GMT

@Profile closed Info below.

When Wi-Fi 6 CAN deliver the goods: If you have a brand new Wi-Fi 6
client device and a brand new Wi-Fi 6 router and are using both in the same room (and both devices
are very close to each other) there is a high likelihood that the two devices will negotiate an initial 160
MHz channel width (for non-Apple devices only). Throughput can be as high as 80% of the 2401 Mbps
PHY speed (or around 1900 Mbps) -- which is very nice! However, this only happens when the client
device and router are very close to each other (in my testing, four feet away) -- and once you start
adding distance or walls, the two Wi-Fi 6 devices will 'slow down' significantly and communicate with
each other at much closer to Wi-Fi 5 speeds.
Technically, Wi-Fi 5 also supported 160 MHz channels, but it was rare to see a battery
powered client device support 160 MHz channels. For some reason, that appears to have
changed in Wi-Fi 6, where support for 160 MHz channels (even in battery powered client
devices) now appears very common (but not for Apple devices).

Re: Connection PC Wifi or LAN ?

Profile closed — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 19:26:11 GMT

I know I won’t get 1.6Gb internet connection, as max would be 900Mb

My question was … as EE advertise 1.6Gb WiFi … purely in terms of connection between PC & router, will this quoted 1.6Gb connection be better than a 1Gb Ethernet.

Re: Connection PC Wifi or LAN ?

XRaySpeX — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 19:30:09 GMT

It'll probably be faster close to the router but fall off faster with distance. EE advertises 1.6 GB BB, not WiFi.

Re: Connection PC Wifi or LAN ?

JimM11 — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 19:34:09 GMT

@Profile closed The quoted is on paper, if you buy the GByte package, then you will only get that speed..... You cannot get any more than you can put down the pipe, your ethernet will show 1000/1000, but you will get what it can respond to on the internet broadband and all the variables, similar your 5400 wifi, you will get somewhere around the 800-900 mark if possible.

Re: Connection PC Wifi or LAN ?

Profile closed — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 08:47:01 GMT

I had seen EE ad https://ee.co.uk/broadband/full-fibre

I appreciate I won't get an internet connect higher than 900Mb/s, as that is what I have bought.

So the connection from PC to Router on WiFi should be in excess of GigE ethernet then throttled by 900Mb/s pipe.

I'll test when I build up new PC built this weekend.

It is a pity Smart Hub does not support 2.5GB Lan ports as that is now standard on new PC's using Cat6 connections.

Re: Connection PC Wifi or LAN ?

XRaySpeX — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 08:58:54 GMT

You're ignoring the "Up to" in "Up to 1.6 Gig". Only the 1.6 Gig plan of all the Full Fibre plans can achieve that but you don't have that.

The speed is throttled to 900 Meg by your BB plan even before it gets to the WiFi between the router & your PC.