topic Re: Bad speeds during the day in Mobile Network discussions

Bad speeds during the day

LordSmith — Sun, 11 Sep 2022 17:25:57 GMT

Hi all

on my 5GEE router during the day time im getting really rubbish speeds like 10 down and 3 up. But in the evening it will jump you to 75 down and nearly 15 down.

What am i missing here, the router dosnt move but i seam to lose band B7 darning the day.

Re: Bad speeds during the day

bristolian — Sun, 11 Sep 2022 17:47:55 GMT

There's no logical basis for completely losing a particular carrier during the day on a regular basis - although this could likely explain reduced speeds.

Do you have an EE mobile, and is this similarly affected?

Re: Bad speeds during the day

LordSmith — Sun, 11 Sep 2022 18:07:44 GMT

Thats what i thought but yet here we are. so far its dropped off every day. now i can understand a speed drop during rush hour (i live near a trunk road) so that i could understand. but not losing a hole band.

No i dont have EE mobile (yet).

Re: Bad speeds during the day

EssexBoyEE — Sun, 11 Sep 2022 18:34:45 GMT

When you say your losing B7, was B7 your Band the Router was registered to or showing B7 as a CA Band.

If the Former what Band is B7 being replaced with.?

I assume your not picking up a 5G Signal Layer at all?

Re: Bad speeds during the day

LordSmith — Sun, 11 Sep 2022 18:42:26 GMT

Im not sure all i can tell you is when i first had the router i would see B3+B3 B7+B7 in the band and could get the higher speeds. now its only showing B3+B3.

Im not picking up 5G even though im on the edge of a 5G area.

Re: Bad speeds during the day

EssexBoyEE — Sun, 11 Sep 2022 18:48:02 GMT

The B+B is your CA (Carrier Aggregation) or 4G+ (LTE A) the more the better (Bigger overall Bandwidth)

Have you tried moving the Router around a bit, do a Reboot after each move then wait a few mins.

Re: Bad speeds during the day

LordSmith — Sun, 11 Sep 2022 19:38:56 GMT

Ok think i understand.

I have now moved it (sticking out the window right now) and the speeds have come back and so has B7+B7 so that's fine while im streaming and not raining. but soon as i pull it back in its gone again.

what should the dBm's be is lower better as right now i have -96 and -82

Re: Bad speeds during the day

EssexBoyEE — Sun, 11 Sep 2022 23:07:53 GMT

Depends what info your looking out and what the Router gives you for Signal info. Normally there are 4 measurements -

RSSI, RSRP, SNIR and RSRQ.

The inportant ones are RSRP and SNIR.

As a vert rough guide, If it's RSRP anything better than - 99dbm is good, the lower the number the better. For SNIR anything better than 9 is good the higher the better.

Some 4/5G Routers only report RSSI, this info is purely Signal Strength and has no relevance to the Signal Quality which is ideally what your looking for, but as a very (and a very) rough quide the RSSI normally hovers around -22 to - 28dbm below RSRP, again the lower the number the better as its a negative value.

4G CA Download does rely on a reasonable Signal Strength before it can drop out, same goes for the 5G Signal Layer relies on a more strengent 4G Signal, so next question is what make (and model number) of 5G Router do you have and does it have External Antenna Sockets?

Re: Bad speeds during the day

LordSmith — Mon, 12 Sep 2022 09:41:40 GMT

Ok go it. so mine are RSRP -108 and RSSI -97 right now with the router

I have the 2021 5GEE router. It has the x4 External antenna sockets.

So its looking like i need to get an External antenna to get the most out of my internet then. Do EE provide one thats any good or do i need to get my own.

Re: Bad speeds during the day

LordSmith — Wed, 14 Sep 2022 08:10:40 GMT

Are either of these any good. Im not sure where my nearest mast is so i thought if i go for a onmi one i should get the best of both worlds. Also see as i rent this place can i mount them inside the loft, would save me from having to ask about putting a pole up.

https://4grouter.co.uk/product/fb4x4mimo-5g-fullband-4x4-mimo-5g-external-omni-directional-antenna/

https://www.comms365.com/product/4x4-multiband-mimo-omni-3g-4g-5g-antenna/