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5gee router which antenna

simonharryharri — Tue, 01 Mar 2022 22:10:10 GMT

Can someone point me in the direction of the best Antenna for the 5gee router I got delivered today, EE tell me they don't sell one to go with it?!

Re: 5gee router which antenna

simonharryharri — Tue, 01 Mar 2022 22:36:29 GMT

Would I be right in thinking this will fit it ?

https://www.forestrock.co.uk/product/qupanel-lte-mimo-4x4/

Re: 5gee router which antenna

EssexBoyEE — Wed, 02 Mar 2022 00:41:26 GMT

In a word, No, this Antenna is not compatable with your Router it doesn't cover the correct Frequency's for the UK.

Also this is a 4x4 Mimo Antenna, most LTE Routers are 4X4 but only have External Ports for 2x2 Mimo External Aerials, do you happen to know how many Antenna Ports/ Plugs on the Router? per chance.

Normally I would Recommend 4/5G Antennas made by Poynting, Huawei or Panorama, plus a few more for Specialist Directional Applications, but TBH ive never heard of Forestrock where did you dig them up from? probably a Rebadge of something.

Post up your 5G Router model you have or as much info as possible and we can move forward a bit more towards your requirements.

Re: 5gee router which antenna

simonharryharri — Wed, 02 Mar 2022 10:49:42 GMT

Thanks for the reply its the 5GEE Router 2021 latest one on the EE website

Sticker on the bottom just says: 5GEE Router

And it does have 4 antenna ports on the back so was actually thinking this one:

https://quwireless.com/product/QuPanel-5G-LTE-MIMO-4x4

What do you reckon to that?

Re: 5gee router which antenna

EssexBoyEE — Wed, 02 Mar 2022 21:13:15 GMT

Is there no Model Number on the Router? not to worry, I going to assume the Router is the EE Locked Down version of the Zyxel if it has 4 External Antenna Ports, as a few of Zyxel Router 5G have.

The second link you have posted for the Antenna ( QuPanel-5G-LTE-MIMO-4x4 ) does look as though it covers the UK 5G Frequencies (N78) and looking at the Data Spec there does seem to be some confusion as to whether it covers EE's new 5G 700mhz Band (N28) but it does state it covers this Band on 4G (LTE), so assuming each of the 4 Antennas and Feeders within the Unit are the same spec then it should cover the 5G Band N28.

Also, it looks like the Coax Feeder Plugs on the above Aerial are SMA Type, so if they are, your probably going to need 4 x Adaptors to suit the Router Antenna Sockets, Im not sure what they are on the Router but if I was to hazard a guess probably TS9 Type, probably best to wait and see when the Antenna is delivered to double check, if you decide to go down this route.

Other than that I have not come across the above make of 5G 4x4 Mimo Aerial before, other than they are based in Poland, so Im not in a position to comment on the Aerials build quality and its working performance or compare it to my recommendations in my first Post, so if you do decide on this one perhaps let us know your thoughts of it.

Re: 5gee router which antenna

simonharryharri — Wed, 02 Mar 2022 21:39:42 GMT

Thanks will let you know how I get on with it

Re: 5gee router which antenna

Adman1 — Sun, 27 Mar 2022 20:34:56 GMT

Hi Simon,

Did you buy that antenna and if so has it worked?

Not that helpful EE don’t sell a compatible antenna or point you to where to buy one.
Thanks,

Adam.

Re: 5gee router which antenna

BoltonSailor — Wed, 30 Mar 2022 10:39:21 GMT

For info, EE do an external antenna install service via 0800 079 0131.

They then sub the install out to TSG. My problem is that the external antenna has two cables (that needed adaptors to be supplied), but the modem has 4 connections. I'm struggling to confirm which 2 of the 4 should be used. Any help would be gratefully received.

Re: 5gee router which antenna

simonharryharri — Wed, 30 Mar 2022 11:25:58 GMT

Hi yes the antenna works perfectly

I was getting only 8mbps down and 1mbps upload with my old 4g one

and am now getting between 35-70 mbps down and 30 odd upload, it connects to 5g most of the time and if not picking it up switches automatically to 4g. I'm right in the middle of no where and on the edge of the 5g signal and can't get 5g with just my phone so the antenna is great

Re: 5gee router which antenna

Adman1 — Wed, 30 Mar 2022 11:36:38 GMT

That’s really great to know, thanks for confirming will prefer one now.

Did they supply an antenna with TS9 rather than SMA, or did you have to buy adapters separately?
Thanks,

Adam.

Re: 5gee router which antenna

BoltonSailor — Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:06:42 GMT

Thanks for the reply. Just to confirm though - do you know which 2 of the 4 antenna ports on the router your external antenna is connected to please?

Re: 5gee router which antenna

EssexBoyEE — Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:50:10 GMT

@BoltonSailor just to confirm, so as to avoid confusion, the second antenna Link (QuPanel 5G/LTE Mimo 4x4) on this thread is (as per the specs) a 4/5G 4x4 MiMo External Antenna, therefore All 4 of the Antenna feeder Connectors are connected to All 4 of the Routers Connectors.

The first Antenna Link (QuPanel LTE Mimo 4x4), was also a 4x4 LTE Mimo Antenna, but I ruled this one out as it did not cover the required the 4 and 5G Frequency Bands for use in the UK.

Re: 5gee router which antenna

simonharryharri — Wed, 30 Mar 2022 13:21:25 GMT

Yep it connects to all 4 and you need 4 of these to go inbetween

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B077JJPP1X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Re: 5gee router which antenna

BoltonSailor — Wed, 30 Mar 2022 14:14:55 GMT

Thanks for this. I think the one TSG have installed is this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Panorama-WMM8G-7-38-MiMo-%C2%ADten%C2%ADna-cable/dp/B07QNRYVXF

which is obviously 2x2 and explains why there are only 2 wires.

I'm still struggling to understand whether it matters which of the two ports on the router I connect them to (although I did see a significant improvement connecting them to the bottom two ports, despite TSG saying I should use the top 2.) Or actually, should they have installed a 4x4 antenna to make use of all 4 ports?

Re: 5gee router which antenna

EssexBoyEE — Wed, 30 Mar 2022 14:33:46 GMT

@BoltonSailor in order to keep things on track and in the right place, I have replied to you in the other Tread where you posted here -

https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/5G/5GEE-Router-2021/m-p/1131619#M3485

My reply reply is quiet lengthy and possibly a bit Techy but will hopefully give you some understanding on my thoughts on this.

regards Chris.

Re: 5gee router which antenna

BoltonSailor — Sun, 03 Apr 2022 18:59:54 GMT

Hi @simonharryharri

Can I ask where you sourced the antenna from please? I'm looking now and can only find EU sources so fearing I might get stung with import charges. thanks.

Re: 5gee router which antenna

EssexBoyEE — Sun, 03 Apr 2022 21:15:11 GMT

@BoltonSailor Looks like the Polish Company has 5 Stockist in the UK if you look on thier Website, one of them is Solwise, which would probably be my choice as they are established in the LTE Sector and also stock Panorama and Poynting Aerials.

https://www.solwise.co.uk/3g-antenna-outdoor.htmhttps://www.solwise.co.uk/3g-antenna-outdoor.htm

Re: 5gee router which antenna

simonharryharri — Mon, 04 Apr 2022 10:16:10 GMT

I got it from WiFi-stock.co.uk

Re: 5gee router which antenna

BoltonSailor — Wed, 06 Apr 2022 10:58:31 GMT

Thanks for this. I've just received mine. I note that the cables are individually labelled with A1(+45 and -45) and A2(+45 and -45). Did this affect how you plugged them into the router? I can imagine A1 is the top two ports and A2 are the bottom two, but no idea how to distinguish the +45s and -45s!

Re: 5gee router which antenna

simonharryharri — Wed, 06 Apr 2022 11:03:59 GMT

I didn't even notice that just plugged them in randomly!