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    <title>topic Re: sim cards can die on the shelf ... a warning in Archived Posts</title>
    <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/sim-cards-can-die-on-the-shelf-a-warning/m-p/930661#M278569</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/384192"&gt;@Jon_K&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;: How can a PAYG SIM go into hibernation when it it is sealed in its packaging &amp;amp; unused?&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;If it really does, it makes a mockery of any&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;expiry date written on it as well as all those as-yet unsold SIMs over 9 months old in the shops. They should really only have expiry dates of + 9 months of manufacture.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2020 02:15:33 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>XRaySpeX</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-07-09T02:15:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>sim cards can die on the shelf ... a warning</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/sim-cards-can-die-on-the-shelf-a-warning/m-p/930400#M278567</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This is a slightly sad story and a warning.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Years ago, when I had only one hyphen (Haydon-Berrow) I won a spot prize on this forum that included a sim card with 24GB that would last a year. I didn't have an immediate use for it so I hoarded it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;When the covid-lockdown arrived I started using Zoom and dug out the sim card but my phone and dongle reported it invalid and couldn't connect. I contacted EE-support by phone and a helpful young woman took the mobile-phone number but found that it was active. She added 20GB of data but I still couldn't get a connection so she passed me on to technical support.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Technical support was a helpful young man and he asked me to reboot my phone. (It's astonishing how often this is helpful; it flushes any cached data). That didn't help so he asked for the sim-number and I added the phone-number. That's interesting, he said, they aren't associated. He surmised that the sim card had become invalid and the phone-number had gone back into the pool and been reassigned. Some lucky person had been given 20GB but I don't know if it was removed.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I expressed surprise because the packet was sealed and said it had an expiry date of 09/25 on it. I can understand a number dying if it is registered and then not used for a while but he said that it sometimes happens that a person buys a card with data/credit on it in an EE shop but finds the card is invalid for this reason. I asked whether he could do anything about my lost data but the best he could do was give me 1GB of data that will last for a month.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I don't feel aggrieved, all I lost was something I had been given for free, but this is a warning that sim cards that are sealed in a packet with an expiry date in the future may not be valid. It is best to test them while one can.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 13:36:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/sim-cards-can-die-on-the-shelf-a-warning/m-p/930400#M278567</guid>
      <dc:creator>Haydon--Berrow</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-08T13:36:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: sim cards can die on the shelf ... a warning</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/sim-cards-can-die-on-the-shelf-a-warning/m-p/930499#M278568</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi &lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/819485"&gt;@Haydon--Berrow&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;

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&lt;P&gt;I'm sorry to hear this.&lt;/P&gt;

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&lt;P&gt;It sounds like the number may have gone into hibernation when it was assigned to you.&lt;/P&gt;

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&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Pay-as-you-go-and-Flex/What-is-pay-as-you-go-and-flex-hibernation-and-how-do-I-stop-it/td-p/833279" target="_blank"&gt;What Is Hibernation &amp;gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;

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&lt;P&gt;Jon&lt;/P&gt;

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      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 16:35:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/sim-cards-can-die-on-the-shelf-a-warning/m-p/930499#M278568</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jon_K</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-08T16:35:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: sim cards can die on the shelf ... a warning</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/sim-cards-can-die-on-the-shelf-a-warning/m-p/930661#M278569</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/384192"&gt;@Jon_K&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;: How can a PAYG SIM go into hibernation when it it is sealed in its packaging &amp;amp; unused?&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;If it really does, it makes a mockery of any&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;expiry date written on it as well as all those as-yet unsold SIMs over 9 months old in the shops. They should really only have expiry dates of + 9 months of manufacture.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2020 02:15:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/sim-cards-can-die-on-the-shelf-a-warning/m-p/930661#M278569</guid>
      <dc:creator>XRaySpeX</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-09T02:15:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: sim cards can die on the shelf ... a warning</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/sim-cards-can-die-on-the-shelf-a-warning/m-p/930813#M278570</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for pointing this out, &lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/2818"&gt;@XRaySpeX&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;

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&lt;P&gt;It shouldn't of gone into hibernation in that case.&lt;/P&gt;

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&lt;P&gt;Jon&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2020 10:47:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/sim-cards-can-die-on-the-shelf-a-warning/m-p/930813#M278570</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jon_K</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-09T10:47:51Z</dc:date>
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