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    <title>topic Re: 4g SIM or Sim + Router in Archived Posts</title>
    <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027816#M274584</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;hey&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/224807"&gt;@James_B&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The sim only was on pay as you go and works only in tablets and routers while the 2nd EE sim came with 4gEE router with unlimited data (Contract)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2021 09:12:05 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>nibzy</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-02-12T09:12:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>4g SIM or Sim + Router</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027153#M274577</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey guys,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So i want to buy an unlimited 4g sim to play games, work from home and other entertainment however, I cannot decide between just getting a stand alone sim and then buying a powerful router separately or buying the sim package that come with the EE router. Cost is not a concern for me, I'm looking for the maximum performance, in terms of lowest ping possible and high download. Which of the 2 options would give me the best result?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2021 11:29:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027153#M274577</guid>
      <dc:creator>nibzy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-10T11:29:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 4g SIM or Sim + Router</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027598#M274578</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1604319"&gt;@nibzy&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;It doesn’t matter what router your using it’s still a cellular sign via the EE SIM card. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2021 13:47:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027598#M274578</guid>
      <dc:creator>Chris_B</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-11T13:47:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 4g SIM or Sim + Router</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027661#M274580</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/142884"&gt;@Chris_B&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;ok, so ive been looking at all the deals. I've noticed you can buy 5g broadband mobile data with a router however its not unlimited where as if i buy a stand alone sim with 5g, it comes with unlimited data thus, would i be able to put that sim in a 5g router and essentially have unlimited 5g broadband mobile data?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2021 15:46:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027661#M274580</guid>
      <dc:creator>nibzy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-11T15:46:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 4g SIM or Sim + Router</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027718#M274581</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes you can.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2021 18:15:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027718#M274581</guid>
      <dc:creator>EssexBoyEE</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-11T18:15:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 4g SIM or Sim + Router</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027808#M274582</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/142884" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;@Chris_B&lt;/A&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;right now, i have used 2 ee sims which i borrowed&amp;nbsp;from 2 of my siblings. 1 is a stand alone sim only EE sim, whilst&amp;nbsp;the other is an ee sim that came with an ee router, i tested both sims in a router, the sim only one had between around 40-50 download while, the sim that came with router had around 100 download. Why is this the case? shouldn't&amp;nbsp;they both have the same performance?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;All tests where carried out in the same router and at the same location with multiple tests.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2021 08:49:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027808#M274582</guid>
      <dc:creator>nibzy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-12T08:49:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 4g SIM or Sim + Router</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027815#M274583</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi &lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1604319"&gt;@nibzy&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/P&gt;

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&lt;P&gt;Which plan was each SIM using?&lt;/P&gt;

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&lt;P&gt;James&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2021 09:05:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027815#M274583</guid>
      <dc:creator>James_B</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-12T09:05:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 4g SIM or Sim + Router</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027816#M274584</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;hey&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/224807"&gt;@James_B&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The sim only was on pay as you go and works only in tablets and routers while the 2nd EE sim came with 4gEE router with unlimited data (Contract)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2021 09:12:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027816#M274584</guid>
      <dc:creator>nibzy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-12T09:12:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 4g SIM or Sim + Router</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027823#M274585</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi &lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1604319"&gt;@nibzy&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;In some instances, a pay monthly SIM could be connecting to a different mast or cell than a SIM using pay as you go (Which doesn't have access to the 800MHz spectrum).&lt;/P&gt;

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&lt;P&gt;Our Tech Gurus will be happy to take an in depth look at this if you &lt;A href="https://ee.co.uk/help/help-new/get-in-touch" target="_blank"&gt;get in touch&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;

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&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;James&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2021 09:31:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027823#M274585</guid>
      <dc:creator>James_B</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-12T09:31:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 4g SIM or Sim + Router</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027825#M274586</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Depends how's old the Sims are, EE used to have (and still do to a degree) two speed Tiers on 4G speed, limited, and Double Speed, the 1st Tier was limited to around 60mps max, a tad more in practice, and the later was Max Speed where possible.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The PAYG would have fallen within the 1st, and the Data SIM, subject to the Plan would have been in the 2nd.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You mentioned 5G in your other post, just to confirm to get 5G Speeds your need a 5G Plan, a 5G Phone or Router and of course be in a 5G Coverage Area,&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2021 09:34:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027825#M274586</guid>
      <dc:creator>EssexBoyEE</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-12T09:34:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 4g SIM or Sim + Router</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027853#M274587</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1508105"&gt;@EssexBoyEE&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/224807"&gt;@James_B&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I see, that makes sense and thanks for the information. The PAYG Sim is actually a few years old too while the monthly plan data sim, was purchased within the last 3 months. Since i already have a 4g router (TP link 6400), i will just get the sim only unlimited data (with 5g enabled) with the intention of upgrading to a 5g router in the future and use 4g for now (signal strength of 4g is maxed out in my area and 5g says only good for outdoors).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Getting the sim only with unlimited data should put me in the 2nd tier right?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2021 10:38:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027853#M274587</guid>
      <dc:creator>nibzy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-12T10:38:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 4g SIM or Sim + Router</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027862#M274588</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That's right &lt;a href="https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1604319"&gt;@nibzy&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;James&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2021 10:53:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027862#M274588</guid>
      <dc:creator>James_B</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-12T10:53:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 4g SIM or Sim + Router</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027864#M274589</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;All EE 5G Plans are Full Speed, no matter if it's a Phone SIM or Data SIM Plan of which both will work in a 4G Router.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2021 10:58:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1027864#M274589</guid>
      <dc:creator>EssexBoyEE</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-12T10:58:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 4g SIM or Sim + Router</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1033482#M274590</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So i decided to end up getting a sim only deal, paying everything month for unlimted data (comes with 1 extra which i chose BT sport) it had much lower speeds then i had expected compared to my brother who lives in the same house getting over 100 download while the highest i got is 60 and lowest being 18.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Have i once again been connected to the other mast with my new sim?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2021 18:27:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1033482#M274590</guid>
      <dc:creator>nibzy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-01T18:27:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 4g SIM or Sim + Router</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1033483#M274591</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;All EE pay-monthly SIMs would connect to the same network sites as each other.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Is that max 60Mb/s speed constant at all times of day/night?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2021 18:45:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1033483#M274591</guid>
      <dc:creator>bristolian</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-01T18:45:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 4g SIM or Sim + Router</title>
      <link>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1033487#M274592</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;havent checked at night, since i have been going to bed early for work.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2021 18:54:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archived-Posts/4g-SIM-or-Sim-Router/m-p/1033487#M274592</guid>
      <dc:creator>nibzy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-01T18:54:01Z</dc:date>
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