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G Fast question

bulldog147 — Tue, 04 May 2021 17:15:21 GMT

If I placed an order with EE, does it come with EE Hub router support G.fast or will it be openreach certified engineer to attend the property to install g.fast socket and openreach g.fast modem?

My plusnet contract exprired next month still on FTTC 80/20 with them.

G.fast Range A (Clean)	259.8	188.5	39.5	18.3	164.5	Available	Available	--
G.fast Range B (Impacted)	215.6	154.2	27.3	13.6	140.4	Available	Available	--

Re: G Fast question

XRaySpeX — Tue, 04 May 2021 17:53:32 GMT

It will come with the white EE Smart Router which incorporates a G.Fast/VDSL2/ADSL modem. No engineer need visit your home; only the cab.

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bulldog147 — Tue, 04 May 2021 18:44:07 GMT

Is it reliable EE Smart Router as don't want a rubbish router with poor wifi? My master socket got openreach mk4 5C faceplate. I think it need G.fast mk4 5C with g.fast name on it?

Re: G Fast question

XRaySpeX — Tue, 04 May 2021 18:49:21 GMT

The EE Smart Router is basically the same as the BT Smart Hub 2.

You don't need a special faceplate for G.Fast.

Re: G Fast question

bulldog147 — Tue, 04 May 2021 18:59:29 GMT

will ee smart router show full stats on G.fast eg: line sync rate, max line rate, SNR, errors, and also does it support wifi with max speed of 160meg as EE checker say my line only get 147 but why it lower than BT estimate at 259?

Re: G Fast question

XRaySpeX — Tue, 04 May 2021 19:21:29 GMT

Yes, you'll get the usual full router stats but these BT-based routers have no error stats at all (as I suspect the PN router doesn't either).

802.11ac can deliver speeds in excess of 433 Meg.

EE estimates have traditionally always been lower than BT's & well lower then the BT Wholesale Broadband Availability Checker estimate, on which it is based, ever since ADSL days. I think BT goes by the Range A figures, whereas EE bases it in the Range B min. Ether way you won't know what you'll get until it's up & running.

Re: G Fast question

bulldog147 — Tue, 04 May 2021 20:29:57 GMT

Didn't realised it come with 18 months contract. I rather 12 months contract not 18

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bulldog147 — Wed, 05 May 2021 14:17:16 GMT

If the line max rate of 158 to 259Meg will EE be able to upgrade to Fibre Max 300 instead of Fibre Max 100 with my request? As I checked on EE as it say only Fibre Max 100 is available with download speed of 140 to 146Meg for fibre max 100. Can't order fibre max 300 as BTw checker say my line can get up to 259 estimated

Re: G Fast question

XRaySpeX — Wed, 05 May 2021 14:37:36 GMT

OIC! EE are quoting speeds just for Fibre Max 100. That makes more sense.

There's no reason why you can't get Fibre Max 300 there. So I don't see why EE isn't offering it to you.

Re: G Fast question

bulldog147 — Wed, 05 May 2021 15:02:00 GMT

Pretty daft to be honest. BT.Com say yes they can offer Fibre 250 (g.fast 259) and EE say no only Fibre Max 100. Useless

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bulldog147 — Thu, 06 May 2021 08:34:41 GMT

Can I use my own router (will EE provided me broadband username and password for PPPoE login)?

Will EE including free Static IP Address?

Look like G.Fast 160/30 are the only way now from 80/20.

Re: G Fast question

XRaySpeX — Thu, 06 May 2021 11:46:13 GMT

Yes, in Home Broadband settings you'll find almost everything you need to set up your own router. What's missing for Fibre is:

VLAN ID = 101.

EE don't provide static public IPs. That's a rare benefit you get from PN, a static IP for a small 1-off outlay.

Re: G Fast question

bulldog147 — Thu, 06 May 2021 11:50:54 GMT

Will EE provided PPPOE username and password for setup my own router as most ISP refused to give our broadband usrrmame/password as I do have my own G.fast router

Re: G Fast question

XRaySpeX — Thu, 06 May 2021 11:54:03 GMT

You can get them from the supplied EE router when you 1st connect.

Re: G Fast question

bulldog147 — Thu, 06 May 2021 12:07:11 GMT

Thanks. Just ordered it. Cheers

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bulldog147 — Thu, 06 May 2021 13:36:59 GMT

One more question

I order G.Fast fibre 100 without landline as I never use any phone calls. It say below:

The only difference is you won’t have a home phone service on your landline and if you try to plug one in, there won’t be a dial tone. You also won’t have a landline phone number as it won’t be possible to make or receive calls on it.

What happen if I put BTw Checker with no phone number on it because otherwise I would not see below:

and also via BTw speedtester for checking phone number for IP Profile etc.

Without no landline phone number will cause problem not to get any information via BTw checker and BTw speedtester?

Re: G Fast question

XRaySpeX — Thu, 06 May 2021 13:48:01 GMT

You can still use the BTw Availability Checker & the BT Speedtester when you have Fibre W/out Landline Number by obtaining your Access Line ID (ALID) , Broadband Service ID (BBEU) & UPRN from your ISP.

Re: G Fast question

bulldog147 — Thu, 06 May 2021 13:49:52 GMT

will ee provided me Access Line ID (ALID) , Broadband Service ID (BBEU) & UPRN. They might ask me why you want this for?

Maybe I cancel the order and re-order to kept my landline number but just pay as you go.

Re: G Fast question

XRaySpeX — Thu, 06 May 2021 13:54:53 GMT

Yes, they expect such Qs. I have EE Fibre W/out Landline No. & got these parameters easily from CS.

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bulldog147 — Fri, 28 May 2021 13:02:39 GMT

I have decided not joined EE but go with UnchainedISP.

On the May 25th 2021, just switched over to UnchainedISP for my G.fast service 160/30 with line only (no outbound call except emergency only on 999) from Plusnet VDSL2 80/20 since 2014.

Connected to Openreach Gfast Modem (ZT Link MT992) with TP Link VR2600 Wireless Router.

Engineer test the line for earth test and voice incoming calls test and outbound emergency call - he didn't dial 999

and all passed ok.

Engineer went to the cabinet to changeover from old provider plusnet FTTC to new provider unchainedisp GFAST.

Engineer connect his test kit to the test socket and was reading 159.88 Meg downstream rate 29.66 Meg upsteam rate with max rate on the line is 210 Meg down and 29 Meg up (no chance of 330/50) good job I choose 160/30

Today the isp give me full control on my account with useful control broadband portal with all information on it eg: TalkTalkBusiness upcoming and past maintenance work, Sync Rate Profile current and past, Session History current and past, real time firebrick latency & throughput statistics, Line speed limited (full control of the line speed from 0% to 100%), Carrier Notifications, Request IPs, Reverse DNS, PPP Password, billing portal, customer service, my profile and router settings. Coming soon more feature to be added: Line Test, GEA Test.

UnchainedISP have two products are:

G fast 160/30 at £49.99 12 month contract with backhaul TalkTalkBusiness with Static IP Address (free installation & setup fee) supplied with Openreach Gfast Modem (customer must have their own Router)

G fast 330/50 at £56.99 12 month contract with backhaul TalkTalkBusiness with Static IP Address (free installation & setup fee) supplied with Openreach Gfast Modem (customer must have their own Router)

Can do BTw backhaul as a option request to the ISP as it might charged extra but all Gfast products come at the standard backhaul TalkTalkBusiness by default!

Here is tracert bbc.co.uk test below:

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.19043.985]
(c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>tracert bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [151.101.0.81]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms ARCHER_VR2600 [192.168.0.1]
2 12 ms 10 ms 11 ms 185.250.8.239
3 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms 185.250.8.238
4 13 ms 11 ms 11 ms thn.as51561.net [46.102.193.75]
5 12 ms 13 ms 12 ms be4482.ccr21.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com [149.6.184.181]
6 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms 149.6.2.38
7 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms 151.101.0.81

Trace complete.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>

Added: Here is dslchecker before FTTC 80/20 and now GFAST 196/28* via Openreach Gfast Modem (line capped at 160/30 product) https://i.postimg.cc/gjHtF9nL/BT-Broadband.jpg

*Openreach Test Kit 210/29 from the test socket: https://i.postimg.cc/SNKfNYPv/gfast-openreach-line-test-25th-May-2021.jpg

ZT Link Openreach Gfast Modem MT992: https://i.postimg.cc/mZ9t3LHg/Gfast-Modem.jpg

Here is real time live BQM from my new ISP - UnchainedISP G.fast 160/30: https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broa...hare/54f36b90b989b8f3327cef40cf5907873729e42f

TBB Speedtest: https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/1622196354461598955