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superfast fibre broadband

98psmith — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 09:32:37 GMT

How can the semi-detatched house I'm moving to be capable of only 3mb/s, but the house next door can achieve 61mb/s?

Re: superfast fibre broadband

XRaySpeX — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 09:34:50 GMT

What does BT Wholesale Broadband Availability Checker 's Address Checker estimate for your new addy? Post just the whole table and the line above it, blanking out your addy. Then do the same for house next door.

Re: superfast fibre broadband

98psmith — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 13:12:40 GMT

Re: superfast fibre broadband

XRaySpeX — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 13:51:09 GMT

Most peculiar! For coming from same cab. your new house doesn't have VDSL & only has fixed rate ADSL while next door has VDSL & ADSL2+.

Do you have the phone no. of the new house? Can you use that in the BTw Checker?

Re: superfast fibre broadband

pip11 — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 15:54:23 GMT

If the phone number is (for example) a Sky one then the phone number checker will not yield any results nor quite often the address checker (not alway but hey-ho).

I suspect the line is via a non-BT group ISP at present. Just order your phone line from EE and by the following Friday the database will be updated to show exactly what you can get.

Re: superfast fibre broadband

98psmith — Wed, 04 Aug 2021 15:19:12 GMT

No I dont have the phone number.

I checked the address with sky and virgin who don't use BT cables and neither could offer me more than 3mb/s!

Re: superfast fibre broadband

mikeliuk — Wed, 04 Aug 2021 19:13:35 GMT

Hi @98psmith ,

I'm not aware that Virgin Media offers a service as low as 3 Mbps to consumers?

Some years ago I wanted to obtain a cheaper Virgin Media consumer cable service below 25 Mbps but they had essentially discontinued mainstream consumer services below 50 Mbps.

(I specifically say Virgin Media to consumers as Virgin Media Business mentions ADSL and ADSL2+ https://www.virginmediabusiness.co.uk/help-and-advice/products-and-services/adsl2-guide/ )

Re: superfast fibre broadband

XRaySpeX — Wed, 04 Aug 2021 17:54:00 GMT

@mikeliuk : I believe that at exchanges where VM has no presence within the area that the exchange serves they will offer the existing BTw offering there, which will equate to what all the BT-based ISPs will be offering there.

Re: superfast fibre broadband

98psmith — Wed, 04 Aug 2021 17:35:43 GMT

Your right Mike. Virgin's answer was 'sorry our services arent available' which seems to me even slower than 3mb/s

Re: superfast fibre broadband

pip11 — Wed, 04 Aug 2021 17:49:24 GMT

@XRaySpeX VM haven't had a prescence in exchanges for quite a few years now.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2015/01/virgin-medias-adsl-broadband-users-given-talktalk-marching-orders.html

Re: superfast fibre broadband

Mustrum — Wed, 04 Aug 2021 17:47:19 GMT

@pip11 is correct, although you will find sites such as SamKnows (oh no they don't) claiming that VM have LLU presence in lots of exchanges! They do not use BTW equipment or Openreach lines.

Re: superfast fibre broadband

XRaySpeX — Wed, 04 Aug 2021 17:48:38 GMT

Sorry, I meant in exchange area.

Re: superfast fibre broadband

mikeliuk — Wed, 04 Aug 2021 21:42:36 GMT

Hi @98psmith ,

From a practical perspective, if your choices are between 3 Mbps and 0 Mbps, you may wish to see which service provider performs best using the OpenSignal app and considering going with 4G LTE mobile broadband if your main consideration is bandwidth.

Latency and stability for gaming and video conferencing may not be as good as the average fixed line connection but I suspect may be competitive with a line that delivers only 3 Mbps as I suspect there are physical issues for why the performance does not approach a more normal number.

I currently see the below performance on 4G LTE mobile broadband and it counts as a slow day. (I've seen as high as 81 Mbps and the below result included a burst of 77 Mbps measured by OpenWRT.)

PING ms
25
DOWNLOAD Mbps
62.81
UPLOAD Mbps
29.67

https://www.speedtest.net/result/11831105945

Unrelatedly, I'm in an area where Virgin Media do not offer their services and additionally OpenReach does not offer its services. The developer's ISP Fibre Nest is the only fixed line option (FTTP) but I've chosen instead to go for 4G LTE mobile broadband to get higher bandwidths (and a greater choice of providers) for a particular price point (giving up 12 ms latency and a routable IPv4 address).