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How do I avoid a device being bricked?

skysky21 — Sun, 28 Mar 2021 22:37:02 GMT

I am aware that apple had a lawsuit filed against them for deliberately deploying software to intentionally damage handsets they no longer wanted people to use to force them into upgrading to their more modern handsets are apple the only company to deliberately and intentionally brick their own handsets to force people into upgrading or is anyone aware of any other manufacturers that have committed this same scandalous ploy? Would be really interested to know if anyone else has been a victim of this with any other handsets apart from apple. I am currently experiencing apple starting this process with my iPhone 7 so I’m now in a situation where I’m having to pay off my 2 year contract early as a result. I don’t wish to get another handset where I’m having to pay a contract off early because a manufacturer has decided part way through a 2 year contract they want to write a hanset off slowly but surely. Does anyone have any tips and advice on how to avoid me having a repeat of this ever again?

Re: How do I avoid a device being bricked?

XRaySpeX — Mon, 29 Mar 2021 00:47:38 GMT

Rumour Mill!

Re: How do I avoid a device being bricked?

skysky21 — Mon, 29 Mar 2021 01:28:55 GMT

It’s not a rumour mill do your research on apple and their lawsuit and what it was for! Unlike you I have done my research which is why I’m asking! And how can it be a rumour when it’s happening to mine and has happened to millions of other people’s devices as well you clown! Are you sure you’re not an undercover apple representative?

Re: How do I avoid a device being bricked?

BrendonH — Mon, 29 Mar 2021 05:41:09 GMT

It isn't a rumour you are right Apple have been fined for this.

But it is unlikely your phone is experiencing this.

How much ram is being used? How much space are you using compared to the space available on the phone?

Have you preformed a factory reset recently?

Phone's do slow down naturally over time. That's technology for you. You are using it everyday and compared how much of a user you are it can slow down quicker.

Re: How do I avoid a device being bricked?

skysky21 — Mon, 29 Mar 2021 11:24:42 GMT

I have done everything I possibly can to no avail. It’s even been sent away for repair and still this keeps happening! My phone is just over a year old and after a year it should not be doing this the RAM and everything is functioning well with what I have on my device which is why I now believe that apple have deployed bricking software on my phone. There doesn’t appear to be anything else that is possible. Do you know if apple are no longer able to use software to deliberately break people’s devices? I’m having to charge my phone around 3 times a day even with very little use. I’m that sick of it I am seriously considering paying off my current contract and getting another iPhone the top handset they have.

Re: How do I avoid a device being bricked?

BrendonH — Mon, 29 Mar 2021 11:37:28 GMT

Issue is the lawsuit happened in USA and France. The UK didn't do this so you aren't really covered.

They were charged $25 per phone basically. That's what they paid out to their US customers with the phones mentioned (Yours is one of them)

The lawsuit doesn't stop them from doing it again mind. Infact they have confirmed the following....(to the BBC)

Does Apple still slow down older iPhones?
Yes. Since Apple confirmed the practice in 2017, it has implemented it on several more iPhones including:
iPhone 6, 6 Plus, 6S, 6S Plus
iPhone SE
iPhone 7 and 7 Plus
iPhone 8 and 8 Plus running iOS 12.1 or higher
iPhone X running iOS 12.1 or higher
iPhone XS, XS Max and XR running iOS 13.1 or higher
The setting is only enabled when the battery begins to degrade, and iOS now offers clearer information to consumers about when performance management has been switched on.
"The effects of performance management on these newer models may be less noticeable due to their more advanced hardware and software design," Apple said.

Re: How do I avoid a device being bricked?

skysky21 — Mon, 29 Mar 2021 11:54:00 GMT

Thank you very much. I will now confront apple with this I have requested from apple Europe an address where I can send all of my costs incurred as a result of their bricking software and get some legal advice. I am going for the iPhone 12 Pro Max. Hopefully this will get me through a 24month contract without any of these issues. I am running iPhone 7 at the moment!

Re: How do I avoid a device being bricked?

Jamok — Mon, 29 Mar 2021 12:42:13 GMT

iPhone 7 has been out since 2016, it’s only natural considering the age, for the phone to slow down. Also apps get more complex every time they’re updated hence slowing down on an older phone without the latest processing power. Also consider an old battery isn’t going to perform as well as it did when new.

Re: How do I avoid a device being bricked?

BrendonH — Mon, 29 Mar 2021 12:44:57 GMT

@Jamok wrote:
iPhone 7 has been out since 2016, it’s only natural considering the age, for the phone to slow down. Also apps get more complex every time they’re updated hence slowing down on an older phone without the latest processing power. Also consider an old battery isn’t going to perform as well as it did when new.

The issue here is if @skysky21 bought that phone a year ago on EE contract and that phone was brand new when purchased regardless of when it was released it should last longer than a year.

Yes aps get more complicated and updated and will need more processing power but this has all the marks of Apple slowing the device down if his RAm is not being used up by the system and the OP doesn't have tons and tons of data on there using up all their storage

Re: How do I avoid a device being bricked?

skysky21 — Mon, 29 Mar 2021 12:51:29 GMT

And this is exactly the case! And I’m certain beyond any doubt that apple have bricked my device! I don’t have much of a choice but to get out of my current contract and get another handset.

Re: How do I avoid a device being bricked?

Colstalex — Mon, 05 Apr 2021 09:48:21 GMT

Devices slow down as the battery degrades, what does it say for Battery Health in Settings, Battery, Battery Health. A new battery is only £49 I believe from Apple. I have an iPhone 7 and it is working very happily and not slow.

Re: How do I avoid a device being bricked?

skysky21 — Mon, 05 Apr 2021 18:26:29 GMT

Because as soon as your battery goes down to a certain percentage after replacing it you have to spend another £45 on another battery so you’re back in the same situation that you were in before. They’ve got you in this constant loop that keeps repeating itself the only way out of that situation is to upgrade your device to their latest handset. They’ve deliberately made sure upgrading to the latest handset is the only option to make them more money. They’ve done what’s in the best interests of apple as a business not the best interests of their customers don’t be fooled everything they do they make it seem like they are doing a good thing for you but they really aren’t this is sadly what bricking software is designed to do. There never has been a permanent fix for it and never will be replacement is the only option and this has been done deliberately as well.

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Re: How do I avoid a device being bricked?

wardi — Mon, 05 Apr 2021 18:37:28 GMT

Given your understandable anti Apple feeling, I'm genuinely curious as to why you are buying another Apple product? I have a Samsung galaxy S7 with the legendary 'pink line' down the right side of the screen. It will certainly make me think twice about buying another of their phones.

Re: How do I avoid a device being bricked?

skysky21 — Mon, 05 Apr 2021 18:53:29 GMT

It’s not their devices that are the issue it’s the company practices and the underhanded methods they use that is the problem. Everyone in America and France got a $25 refund on their affected devices. Apple UK chose not to participate so UK customers aren’t covered. I’m just making UK apple customers aware of what the only solution to the problem is if their devices are being slowed down. If people want to stick with apple that is entirely their choice and this is what every customer who has an apple device on contract with EE will have to do going from iPhone 6 to iPhone XR. They have also put mobile network providers in a situation because they know this practice is going on but if they argue it with apple directly on their customers behalf it could lose their network money and put them in a very difficult financial situation as well. So they’ve made sure they’ve got everyone right where they want them and there is absolutely nothing that can be done about it. It wouldn’t surprise me if all the other manufacturers haven’t adopted this practice especially the likes of Samsung etc they have just been good at not getting caught. It doesn’t really matter what device you have you will still be put in the same situation regardless.

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Re: How do I avoid a device being bricked?

Chris_B — Mon, 05 Apr 2021 19:20:36 GMT

@skysky21 If your battery is still over 80% of its original capacity then its not being slowed down to preserve optimal performance of the device. But you can over ride this if you choose too. I highly recommend you do more research on this.

If your battery is below the 80% capacity after just one year then you have been over charging your device. The battery should charge at least 400/500 cycles before you might need the battery replaced. A cycle is 0-100% or 50%-100% twice or any combination adds up to 100%. And don’t forget your using a device/chip (A10 Fusion that was made for iOS 10.0.1 ) that wasn’t made to run iOS 14.

And Apple are not bricking any devices as that would be illegal and do you really think they would survive as a company if they did this.

Re: How do I avoid a device being bricked?

Chris_B — Mon, 05 Apr 2021 19:22:19 GMT

@skysky21 You do know how lithium iron batteries work and how they chemically age and deteriorate because it seems you don’t.

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Chris_B — Mon, 05 Apr 2021 19:31:57 GMT

@skysky21 Apple didn’t deploy any software of the sort. Apple very badly deployed a iOS update that slows the device to preserve the user experience of a device due to poor battery health. Apple eventually came out and said why and then pushed out another update that allowed iOS users to toggle off/on this feature if the battery health of that device was substandard due to a high charge cycle count. ( the more you charge the more it degrades) If the battery was poor and this was switched off then the device could under load shut down and restart as it couldn’t cope with the high load on the cpu. With this on this doesn’t happen because it slows down the device so the cpu didn’t drain the battery under load.

Re: How do I avoid a device being bricked?

skysky21 — Mon, 05 Apr 2021 20:09:29 GMT

I understand how lithium batteries age and if you believe the rubbish apple are spouting claiming it was a single update that went wrong you are seriously dilluded! Apple wouldn’t have been dragged through court for the sake of one update!!! Wake up and wise up!!! [Image.jpeg] [Image.jpeg]

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Re: How do I avoid a device being bricked?

Chris_B — Mon, 05 Apr 2021 20:44:36 GMT

@skysky21 I recommend you read THIS Don’t forget this is from 2016/7 when this first happened. And if your iPhone 7 after just over a year of usage has poor battery health then you have caused this yourself by constantly cycling the battery. It’s a phone don’t forget so continued long usage will mean you need to charge the battery more and more.